these politics where killed when YOU (the people who are in the top regions of the rankings) started to moan about the abuse of global politics.
Bollocks.
Global Politics was good for about 90 seconds for the first time they were introduced. Then it collapsed into a fetid morass of e-penis comparison; or a place to whine about the game. I too am guilty of this, especially a few rounds ago when i was the 'voice' of Desperadoes so don't think i'm taking the moral high ground (lol). This playerbase simply hasn't got the maturity to deal with subjects in an appropriately humorous manner before some comment sparks off a gigantic flamewar.
the scale of magnitude of all these symptoms you describe on global politics aren't even comparable to the **** we had to read the last few rounds on forums...(and those where all from the so called respected players in the top of the ranks.
No argument about the degree of bullshit; i'm not saying that high ranked players are any less likely to write BS than low ranked players, that would be silly. All that being said, when we have 'perfectly good forums' with a perfectly good 'politics' section, why should we create a secondary area? I didn't and don't see a need for Gpols unless we're deliberately doing away with the politics sub forum here.
good forums? the forums are as good as the contributers are...
and that politics section is one of my least favourite places to check for new posts. further was g-pols the first area and this politics section the secondary. and if it was up to me, i would throw a 100gigbit enscription code lock on it and throw it in the depths of hell sort-of-speak.
the positive thing about g-pols was that every round people could start with a clean sheet. now its all saved for our offspring to barf over.
Alcibiades said:
atsanjose said:
Alcibiades said:
Not to mention as Garrett pointed out, Global politics was hardly 'global' given that only a select few could use it. Now this could have been changed if Gpols had lasted until the new permissions settings, where one of the permissions could have been to 'talk on Gpols' but in all honesty, i don't see the loss of Gpols as the loss of politics. Most of what was on there wasn't, and could never have been, qualified as 'politically' interesting talk. Most people would term it useless epeen spam.
In the smaller regions there are only a few people (mostly the leaders and former officers who gave enough to communicate with others in any sort of way.
I don't understand your point here, please elaborate?
as you say that not everyone was allowed to speak there mind on g-pols (thank god for that) but that doesnt really matter for the alliances in the lower rankings, those are ehhh alliance like. meaning: the members communicate with the leader - the leader communicates with the world.
simple as that. if youre a member of a lower ranked alliance you dont want to fuss about everything.
there where 2 points on which the g-pols was terminated
1. to much spam/flame/trolls and
2. omgwtfbbq some people couldnt contribute to it because they werent le/co/mo.
to continue: lots of people arent interested in creating an forums account and be active on it. you know why? well i guess you do but let ill say this anyway:
alot of people (iam not calling names) find it funny, to demonize and patronize new members of the community when they are making silly comments/suggestion/questions and so on, with big words like "That wont happen" "Been suggested before" "Use search before you suggest something" a lot combined with expletives like newbie and noob.
soooooo, with removing the pols in question we destroyed a very valuable link to the silent playerbase.... And you say you dont care.
that hurts.
Alcibiades said:
atsanjose said:
Alcibiades said:
If people want to use the politics forums here; they must go through a process of making a forum account; logging into forums; going to the appropriate subsection; making a post and then posting it. This all requires at least a modicum of thought and effort so that it prevents the average utterly useless post like all the **** that was rife on Gpols.
then i think some people have had help making a forum account...
True, forums aren't necessarily enforcing a 'better' type of politics, but you have to go through a little more effort to get here and it generally (imo) prevents the kind of obnoxious posts i saw in Gpols. Of course there are some people who just cannot for the life of them write sensible, intelligent, or cogent posts, but that can't be helped... this *is* the internet after all.
everyone is entitled to give there opinion. but maby forums is just a bar to high, if you catch my drift. we need to lure them first, before hooking them in. :evilbat:
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atsanjose said:
Alcibiades said:
There is nothing about Gpols that i miss. period. Whatever politics there were, continue here. I blame politically uninteresting gameplay or a lack of effort and humour on the part of the players.
the mocking and slander ive heard from for instance SEED where 100 times better then what the upper regions had said on g-pols/forums or w/e.
period.
That is a matter of opinion but i would be willing to bet a large proportion of the playerbase did *not* enjoy the threads from seed, i certainly didn't, my alliance(s) i was in never did and the majority of people i talked to in #bushtarion didn't. And those people are a large majority of the active and vocal playerbase, perhaps there is a 'silent' majority that i'm not hearing from who loved hearing Seed whine, *****, moan and flame on Gpols. If you (readers) are one of those people, let me know, i'll be happy to retract my previous statements if i am proved wrong, until then i'll stand by my convictions thank you.
You're the one who starts about lack of humor not me
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atsanjose said:
just because people play in the low ranks doesnt mean they are morons! And therefore i rate your post as useless and patronising.
I never said that people in low ranks were morons but thanks for putting words in my mouth. There are morons in all ranks, high and low; it just so happens that the majority of vocal players are in the top few hundred ranks. I can't help that fact, and neither can you. Nor did Gpols allow hordes of low ranked players to express themselves, if anything Forums is a more open area than Gpols.
I'm sorry you find me useless and patronising; perhaps this is something you should take up with yo momma since she found me very useful last night when i patronized her establishment.
iam not putting things in your mouth : (), i will leave that task for your father.
and further, youre right, you dont say they are morons, i combined probbebly the whole vibe of youre post with the actual topic, which is about the lower rankings...
