xvi
Harvester
Do alliances get anything for having high h/f? If not, I suggest they get some free alliance troops.
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Dax
Hydroponics Developer
xvi
Harvester
tobapopalos
Hydroponics Developer
It couldn't hurt to give alliances with decent titles some white knight / white wizard style troops as long as they aren't too powerful. Alliance troops are under-used as it is.
xvi
Harvester
Dax
Hydroponics Developer
Fair comment, I think a stock of WK/WW is appropriate for AHQ use.
xvi
Harvester
yeah, the idea being that if an ally has high HF they have likely been picked on. Plus, it would give incentive for leaders to watch their players to be sure they aren't bashing, if they care for getting free alliance troops. I would say though that only the leader and those he/she gives permission to could use them, like any other alliance troop.
As i said to DaX on IRC about this, I like the idea, but i feel the entire AHQ needs a total revamp and new look, it hasn't changed since the very start of Age 3 5-6 years ago, it is ancient, outdated and a relic of gameplay that doesn't really exist anymore (although I'm not saying that the AHQ units were anymore worthwhile back in Age3 than they are now)
A complete overhaul of the AHQ is needed before any tie ins with H/F are brought in.
A complete overhaul of the AHQ is needed before any tie ins with H/F are brought in.
xvi
Harvester
so when is the complete overhaul going to happen?
Dax
Hydroponics Developer
My suggestion was fairly simple - Boost the limits on AHQ staff, and introduce HF units to AHQ (so WK/WW are an AHQ availability, too).
Og suggested perhaps lowering tech values to get to ETA 5, and having Watch Tower tech being replaced by ETA 4 view, rather than getting a totally useless unit which is insanely overpriced. Again, drop the value of the tech so it is more believeable.
A complete overhaul simply won't happen, and thus we are stuck with making what we already have fairer, without needing to adjust any major settings. The introduction of HF units may push that limit, but increasing limits, and decreasing tech cost is simple value changing, and it will have an effect immediately.
This.
tobapopalos
Hydroponics Developer
I don't buy into that logic. You're saying that we can't improve something a little bit because we can't improve it a lot. In the absence of any wholesale changes to the AHQ system is it not worth improving it in little ways instead?
willymchilybily
Landscape Designer
dont see anything wrong with a small change like proposed h/f troops for AHQ. would be nice to get a full revamp. but ill take what i can.
agreed.
People are suggesting revamp HQ. Thas has been suggested many times, but we have not seen many suggestions how we should go about it that would work. I recall suggestions by Garrett with regards to a whole new route tech, and i remember HQ land has been suggested (i think), but it doesnt seem like we've seen anything to really improve the HQ substantially.
If anyone thinks they can find a thread that has solved the problem, please post it.
Otherwise, these little improvements are welcome...I support xvi's suggestion. Increase limit of HQ troops for honourable alliances.
Generally I agree with you, but I only really found out this round just how powerful Tanks are. I recall 1 br in which our 750k tanks killed 30m staff. Ok, it could have been largely flak - but given how late in the tick they fire, they must have done a pretty hefty amount of damage hitting the stuff that actually survived the stuff that fired before them. Not to mention, of course, how hard it is to kill off tanks due to the large amount of both armour and health they have. In my opinion, if you want to be increase the cap on how many your HQ can have, you need to make them slightly (and I do mean very slightly) weaker or else they'd run the risk of being too powerful.
Before anyone goes on about how honourable alliances deserve the extra protection from larger alliances and therefore tanks should be really powerful, please see that any alliance can stay small by donating a lot of funds to their HQ, doing lots of honourable attacks (as they're easier when you're small) and therefore maxing out the number of tanks they get - making them incredibly difficult to kill as the risk of getting massacred by the tanks is a risk too high for many attackers. They're limited at 750k for a reason.