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Nutter Route
- Thread starter Davs
- Start date
i think they're that way round for balance rather than anything else
to slow down teching of intel/geos with the rest of the route
as a guess at least
but yeah, would make sense them being the other way round, perhaps name change to Kennels and summit else for the Crazies
to slow down teching of intel/geos with the rest of the route
as a guess at least
but yeah, would make sense them being the other way round, perhaps name change to Kennels and summit else for the Crazies
Dax
Hydroponics Developer
BRING BACK THE ORIGINAL NUTTAH.
That is all.
That is all.
willymchilybily
Landscape Designer
They totally should have been targetting either straight all. Or nlt. Not lethal all.
But i agree £3,000 nutters firing all ticks was it? Much more fun. Had its uses against units targetting all thats for sure.
But i agree £3,000 nutters firing all ticks was it? Much more fun. Had its uses against units targetting all thats for sure.
Almost - it was £3k and targetted R/M. But I say make it target close as well and perhaps bump the price up to £6k, it would be a tremendous unit!!!
Dax
Hydroponics Developer
edd
Tree Surgeon
LET/INN
strip geos for yobs.
strip geos for yobs.
willymchilybily
Landscape Designer
LET/INN
strip geos for yobs.
Would be more useful for the cg id expect. Stripping after guru poms. And before yobs and sd.
But would rather have it as a unit to help you land imo. Terror Tl dogs isnt often last ticked unless by armour route or lot of flak assisting. But easy to block. Poms will soak up dogs and flak.but they could assist you landing if they just targetted all/nlt to disrup the sweepers though id settle for a compromise of nlt/inn
not like they re ever gonna be enough of them in your army to be put to good effect last ticking lethals at that initiativeThen again they should have just made surfs an nld with a bit more ad. (so still vunerable to less used routes/ units eg auto/vd that are around at flak wars) and do what you say above with the nutters.
Dax
Hydroponics Developer
I've solved the Serf in my plan for adjustments to the vamp route.
edd
Tree Surgeon
LET/INN
strip geos for yobs.
Would be more useful for the cg id expect. Stripping after guru poms. And before yobs and sd.
But would rather have it as a unit to help you land imo. Terror Tl dogs isnt often last ticked unless by armour route or lot of flak assisting. But easy to block. Poms will soak up dogs and flak.but they could assist you landing if they just targetted all/nlt to disrup the sweepers though id settle for a compromise of nlt/inn
Then again they should have just made surfs an nld with a bit more ad. (so still vunerable to less used routes/ units eg auto/vd that are around at flak wars) and do what you say above with the nutters.
Tbh, at that initiative they fire before CW and TD and apaches so that does help with being last ticked by armour which happens all the time (not sure what u r talking about
). Dogs go about 50:1 on CW so they are hopeless on LT. An AD buff on nutters would go a long way to making it a viable unit
Dax
Hydroponics Developer
It isn't meant to fight AD - Routes were made with these vulnerabilities for a reason! Bring back the old Nutter - Fire all ticks, at 8.5k each. Simple.
willymchilybily
Landscape Designer
Tbh, at that initiative they fire before CW and TD and apaches so that does help with being last ticked by armour which happens all the time (not sure what u r talking about
Dogs go about 50:1 on CW so they are hopeless on LT. An AD buff on nutters would go a long way to making it a viable unit
I said not normally last tked, unless by armour, which is the opposite of what it appear you think i said?
....basically sa dont last tick dogs. Reason is obv. Only armour does. Or blockers. And the nutter is not going to be effective in a situation where you are facing armour. Because the amount of them i believe you need to make the nutter hoolie nld set up work as anti armour at both range and close limits your other unit ratios, forcing a very nld heavy set up. Also i was far more focused on dragons and rangers and marines. Though apache and cw have so much armour nutters would do jack to them is my guess, Nothing fires after them that needs thier stripping to any great extent so all in all that lethal targetting parameter is a waste or forces you to play so heavily nld you neglect your other units. Which if you do will just lead you to being blocked anyway. As such a much more versatile roll for the unit in my opinion would be for it to fill a niche and target like you say innocents for stripping. Or like i say. Armoured nlt to prevent sweeping of sd/stun/yobs as effectively. Or both. And be benifical to all play styles of that branch of the tl route.
Anyway i think most people think it should change. Either change it back or make it better. My point was meant to convey why let/inn. Such a waste of 70% of its firepower
Tl:dr even massing nutters and hoolis i doubt you stop cw/apache and definately not dragons. And even if you did they would just try to block you last tick... Get rid of the lethal targetting component of the unit. Replace it with anything better mentioned previously. Imo
Alcibiades
Plant Geneticist
dogs would annihilate you. Dogs fire before you, are way cheaper, and are totally freaking awesome.
willymchilybily
Landscape Designer
Terrorist = 240 init
Dogs = 250 init
Sa = 260 init
Dog ratios:
3.00 killed 0.777 SA = 1:0.259 cost to kill one sa = 23 bil
5.00 killed 1.603 Ass = 1:0.321 cost to kill one ass = 16.1 bill
Good luck with that. Then again you wouldnt realise as you never attack alone. Or only fight with and against people who mass one unit. Never realising the true beauty of this game is from its subtle synergies. Sigh