DarkSider
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After a lot of action in forums and in game seems both sides (TBA and resistance) took a break to count bodies and lick their wounds so i used this opportunity to get a hold of important members in the top allies to say a few words. Here is non TBA side as i'll give TBA a chance to see the acusations and resistance's trash talk so they can come back with the best reply. After all they're outnumbered ! 
Starting with Polo from War? Huh:
DarkSider: So it seems resistance gave up, and TBA is easly dominating by their massive combined score and to be honest i don't think if they stay together there is any chance all 3 of them to die.
DarkSider: You think the 3 allies will get full credit or just the top alliance for winning ?
Polo: None of them will get credit. They're pretty much a bunch of people so desperate to win that they'll do anything to do so. Even if they're not having fun (which everyone in War? is) .
DarkSider: How do you cope with defending ? They attack all together or just send random attacks desperate to get a grab on the few targets in range ?
Polo: They keep trying to "mass" us and fail epically everytime. Most of the time they either run away or die. I don't even know why they bother. A bunch of noobs, the "good" players are the ones without targets
DarkSider Any last words ?
Polo: To TBA: don't spend the next 51 days being bored as hell just to get a win (that none will give a **** about anyway) - do something interesting!
And then for some extra warming up let's light TDL and see their opinions:
<DarkSider> Do you see TBA falling by the end of the round if they don't break up ? Or even will it be another resistance ?
<Ogluk> honestly, i personally cant see them falling unless they split. A resistance could deny SG a top 3 finish, but bring the whole lot down cant see it happening. I also think its highly unlikely they'll split, now that half of them have been in all the allies or something
<DarkSider> If they do end winning, how much credit you and your alliance will give TBA and how much to the winning alliance of the 3 ?
<Ogluk> I'll still say well done to them, even if it isn't the most challenging of wins, Inimical have done well to stay ahead of the other 2 in land stealing Ofc assuming Twigley doesnt engineer it so that Overlude win... which i can see happening.
<DarkSider> Got a last word from thermolamp ?
<Ogluk> hmm, to everyone not in TBA, enjoy the defending, enjoy watching them suicide on defence and most of all, have a great rest of the round
Message for TBA .. hmm, they dont need a message, they have each other for company.
Quickly to BW who might not be involved in the situation but his comments are usually funny
<DarkSider> What you think of the resistance vs TBA ?
<Blackwolf> Resistance vs TBA was nothing but a laugh. It still is. Polo, Martin,Dachi, f0xx all keeping lots of noise on forums etc. but when they needed to actually do something on field they simply failed. Now they have reversed to yelling on forums and nothing else. They like know themselves that resistance is futile, but wont have courage to admit it or die trying.
<DarkSider> So you think they'll keep trying ?
<Blackwolf> You just never ever think of possibility of losing your war. You close your eyes and give your best shot. It either is enought or it is not. After you have questioned yourself and your doings you simply cant go back.
I am sorry that I couldn't give you anything too fancy and juicefull but it is hard to make lots of stories out of very dull and boring round.
After beeing threatened with extinction for not taking Asmo an interview in first article i had a hold of him this time:
DarkSider: What do you think about the events at top ?
Asmo: I think it's a sad situation when allies have to powerblock and use loopholes and exploits in order to win a round just to be the first winners of a new age. Powerblocks are nothing new so cant fault them for that but the way they used it this round is lower than any I have ever seen.
<DarkSider> You think all 3 will stay together till end ? Or lack of targets and boredom will make them split ?
<Asmo> No, I dont think they have what it takes to stay together. One or the other will decide they want/deserve the win more and then it will be like the old saying, no honor amongst thieves.
<DarkSider> What you think it's the reasoning behind such a big powerblock ? We had 2 alliances working together for a longer period of time and fight it out later, but this one is "a bit" different
<Asmo> I really cant see a reason behind it. It doesnt make sense to give someone a win. Take it and its yours but dont expect me to hand it to you.
<DarkSider> Maybe they wanted a win really bad ? And who is they or who is he ?
<Asmo> I dont even think "they" know who the leader is.
<DarkSider> The initial rumour was that Twigley was the mastermind, but since Inimical is said to be the better alliance i wonder how Twigley plans a win here.
<Asmo> Twigs is smart enough to let someone else be the fall guy
<DarkSider> I personally don't see Twigley accepting rank 2. I don't know JJ too well but i guess he is proud enough not to let Twig steal his win.
However, assuming the 3 stay together and one of them wins, what you think they'll get from it ? How will history remember them ?
<Asmo> If they stay together it will be a tainted victory and everyone will remember the 3 tools who gave the big tool the win. And if it is Twigs brainchild, then I know he has a plan for taking number 1. I would if I was him.
<DarkSider> What you think of resistance then ? They gave up too easy ? It might look hard to take 60 members but massing one alliance at a time it's a viable option and i think it might have worked if the pressure was constant.
<Asmo> I think we should of kept it up and went for them one after the other. We should still be doing that now but IMO the main problem with a resistance is that people dont see results right away and they become disilluisoned and give up. They take time to succeed, not just a few days of hits.
<DarkSider> Any last words ? For TBA or resistance ?
<Asmo> Just watch your backs cause this aint over yet.
<DarkSider> To whom is this adressed to ?
<Asmo> both to be honest
You heard it from the man himself, and going to grab Cyrus to say a word for Chance:
<DarkSider> Why did the resistance stop ? You guys had some success and it looked pretty good for a while.
<Cyrus> Not to blow my own trumpet, but no-one else would organise but me, fair play to Martin he helped me once or twice but apart from that it was mainly me motivating everyone, i managed to get 8 allis involved which is why we were successful, and due to SG's defence falling like a pack of cards
I then left for 2 days and everything stopped. SG regroup and TBA switched members to help them out which wouldnt have helped them if we had kept up the resistance.
<DarkSider> So why you didn't give it another go when you got back ?
<Cyrus> in this time i went away for 2 days, we got trashed quite a bit, then they had a go at war huh, and TDL etc .. so we were regrouping ourselves and no-one else seemed really interested.
<DarkSider> You think resistance gonna have another go at them or you just wait and defend till end ?
I actually had a word with SG and seems they're confident they can take the resistance now, got new recruits and Inim and Lude members went back in their wings.
<Cyrus> they really cant we've been rushing them, even inim cant stop our rushes so what chance do they have?
I've promised SG members that i will not let them finish 3rd, they are very cocky and back it up with nothing, they assume the ranks have been decided when far from it right now. If we manage to catch SG offgard we could bring them down ourselves without any help.
As far as bringing all 3 down who knows. Although im sure later on in the round Twigley will wanna kill SG because they are potentially deadweight.
<DarkSider> I don't agree with that, twigley needs a shield to take the bullets for them. If SG dies they are next target for resistance. And imo Twigley still wants to win the round and having resistance on his ass while Inim sits on acres it's not the most apealing idea.
<Cyrus> who said we couldnt take lude out first?
<DarkSider> Well the rumour is SG is the weakest
<Cyrus> they are the weakest link. Although tbh i think we could break even inims and ludes defence if we had the numbers we did on SG.
<DarkSider> You think the trio will stay together btw ? or you hope they'll break at one point ?
<Cyrus> i have a feeling twigley will turn on SG. I know JJ wont budge, and SG wont wanna turn on twigley without help from JJ, and JJ wont help SG hit twigley.
<DarkSider> Why not ? maybe Lude will outgrow JJ... and i don't think JJ will just accept defeat.
<Cyrus> twigley wont hit JJ he has no reason to. What he would do is ditch Sg though.
<DarkSider> If Twig wants #1 wouldn't he try things to get in front of Inim ?
<Cyrus> yeah, with the acres from SG
And bizarely DA said he would rather die by being backstabbed than to a resistance.
<DarkSider> Maybe his wish will come true then
<Cyrus> i've a strong feeling it will
<DarkSider> If one of them will win however, and the trio remains at top .. how do you think they'll be remembered ? After all a win is a win, right ?
<Cyrus> they will be remembered as powerblocking noobs, 1 alliance will have a poor win and a bad rep to follow, the other 2 allis will be remember by not winning and also have bad history.
Side notes in history books are always the most important. You'll be remebered for the good and bads things you do, but 1 bad thing can crush everything you achieved before hand.
<DarkSider> Any last declarations ?
<Cyrus> Powerblockers are noobs, however big or small they might be.SG will NOT finish 3rd. And .. Watch Your Backs .. who knows when we might strike?
I was about to call it off with Chance but IoF appeared and took the mic to say the big guy's point of view:
<DarkSider> What you think of resistance ? It was weak ? Why did it stop ?
<IceOfire> I thought the resistance was very well organised by Cyrus, he worked hard finding targets for alliances and offliners, but it was only made weak by other alliances lack of help. Cyrus was the ONLY person to organise the hits. No one else did, so when he didnt organise a hit, no 1 stepped up, no1 took his place. It also didnt help with the member switching until that was stopped, but they put FeR and JJ in SG and kinda stopped most of our hits. No rushes were ever organised, we were just lazy.
<DarkSider> I saw in many posts that non TBA players call TBA noobs. You don't think this lack of interest from resistance and alliances which call themselfs better actually says alot about their determination and organization which IS skill ? It makes little sense to me to claim you're better if you don't bring enough facts to back it up.
<IceOfire> Well i think it was more the tactic they used, instead of fronting up and making the round fun (which pre-round it looked like it was going to be) they used a poor tactic. Not only that but the fact even now they have won, they are sticking together. Its like "Enjoy your 60 days of doing nothing and achieving nothing" Its why many members are slowing leaving
They feel no pride, no sucess, no hard word. Its like they are ashamed.
<DarkSider> Yeah but i was asking about those posts where Chance and WH members say their alliance has more skill/is better. You think there are any real grounds for that claim ? Or it's all just a moaning for the tactics they used ?
<IceOfire> Well i think its a bit of both if im honest, i have no doubt in my mind that WH and Chance have more talent to win. But it was very de-moralising trying to take on 3 alliances bigger than us and when you organised a hit on them, having people 300% your size retal you there wasnt much we could do, which is why the moaning started.
<DarkSider> Yeah but the difference was TBA found a way to protect their 1 wing against 5 alliance incoming while resistance doesn't have the strenght and will to attack 5 vs 1 and find a way to win it. Morale is part of skill
<IceOfire> Their tactic worked for them, there wasnt much we could do. There sheer numbers that retaled and the size of them. Basically, we hit an alliance bigger than us, the have 2 even bigger ones retal us, stealing more land than we steal. These retals being 300% our size, so we do 60% LET mobs on SG, then they put 5 BIG inim members in the allliance who alone can beat most of our inc, as our mobs were smaller due to retals. We couldnt win
<DarkSider> Well i'll leave it at that tho you have to see that if SG had the same pesimistic thinking "we can't defend vs 5 alliances at a time" ; "there's nothing we can do" the situation was different
You think the trio will split later in round ? Twigley must want to win and JJ aswell, no idea about steve but i'm sure he wouldn't say no
<IceOfire> Well Steve is happy with rank 3 as SG has never been that high and he knows if the alliances go 1v1v1 he is *beep*. They are useless, so Steve is on the side of "don't break up". Twigs and JJ will both want to win and i think eventually one of them will break it. And i hope its JJ who kills Twigs. Lude have done nothing this round. Inim were strong and held rank 1, did well in flak wars, not a too bad alliance. SG were battling a bit and getting a bit more involved - even if their attacks atm *beep*
Lude have been poor so i hope JJ does smash him. I just hope JJ grows some balls. Anybody who is willing to stay in TBA for a portal rank, should have their legs chopped off. Enjoy 60 days of boredom and WH and chance PWNing you in defence.
I have some moderate respect for Inim, some very gd friends/players in that alliance, but SG are a joke which is what pains me when i see them ranked higher.
<DarkSider> Cyrus said he promised SG won't finish 3rd. You back up that promise ?
<IceOfire> Their n00bish attacks on WH and chance, we are often sharing funny BRs of TBA naabs dying on clear defence. Then they pull the "we want lower score" card out, if you want lower score and more targets, maybe strap some balls on and hit the 2 big alliances either side of you.
The top 10 have *beep* all land, and it wont increase much between now and end of round. So enjoy.
I will do all in my power to make SG's life hell. Dont get me wrong i dont hate these players, just think their fashion of winning and attitude is *****.
<DarkSider> You said 'SG winning' so i take if if TBA ends ranks 1-2-3 you'll think TBA won the round or since the game offers no recognition to winged groups there will be just 1 winner and 2 helping hands ?
<IceOfire> There is 1 winner. Anybody after that is the first loser, 2nd loser and so on. So if they power block to rank 2 and 3 .. congratulations, you have won...oh wait ...nothing.
I just hope for the sake of the game, JJ grows a testicle or 2.
Rated him alot more than *beep* the *beep* of Twigs.
<DarkSider> I agree, and i have a deep curiousity how the feelings inside TBA will change when the end of round gets closer and 2 alliances get jealous of 3rd winning
<IceOfire> Aye, the jealous factor of Twigs or JJ who ever is in rank 2 will kick in sooner or later. IF one of them really doesnt backstabb ill be dissappointed. Its a war game, have fun and get kills.
I'd love to see Twigs lose to JJ but not as much as seeing DA being castrated.
<DarkSider> any last words ?
<IceOfire> Yea, anybody who stays in TBA is a score queening *beep* of Twigley and JJ.
Well this guy was on fire Thanks all for interviews and stay tuned to hear TBA reply soon
Edit: I also wanted a neutral opinion on this and Garrett seemed like the perfect candidate Will add here his interview:
<DarkSider> So, you read non TBA interviews, you think any of them is full of *beep* ?
<Garrett> well Asmo of course cuz i've never seen discworld organize anything.
<DarkSider> But honestly if Asmo steped in to organize you think players would follow him ? Main quality of an organizer is ppl to have faith in his abilities even if he is required to just cut an onion.
<Garrett> Indeed and as I've never seen him step up to the plate I doubt he could get people to go along with his attack plan. Even if it was the most brilliant thing in the world. DW may have been around for 20 rounds, but I think it's out of sheer comfortability. This is my niche and this is where I will stay.
He mentioned intentions of going for the win. Did he attempt to recruit ftw or expect people to request to join the winning team? I'd like them to get fired up and do something.
But I digress. The people with the most concise statements like polo and ogluk are probably the closest to real events. IoF while going long did have some nice points.
<Garrett> Well IoF can be a contender if he has the motivation, but what I see all too frequently and a big reason for my leaving the game... is that contactability is the norm now. It's like most alliances expect 2-4 people watching 24/7 while everyone else goes and does something. Being contactable used to mean, once in a rare while we'll get you up for emergencies... now people get pranked if someone farts in the channel.
So like the resistances, people will get on and send and then go offline, expecting the organizers to not only set up the attack, but to watch everyone's attack.
Prank EVERYONE if there is a problem, then prank EVERYONE if there is another wave. people just cba to keep up with all that crap.
Used to be... when you had an alliance, you had a big active group and if you were about to be mullered we'd do what we could to notify you and save you.
<DarkSider> Anyway let's stick more to the alliances and players involved in the round.
What you think of TBA and their leaders in particular ?
<Garrett> I really don't see why any of them agreed to a powerblock if there wasn't a plan for someone to usurp down the line.I mean this is the laziest of the lazy we're talking here. So lazy that they had to freeze 10% of the playerbase to make it easy for them to coast. And they all seem happy with the arrangement. How is this a testament to skill? Happily bragging about acres when they've done nothing?
Powerblocking happens. Usually not with 3, it's stifling the round imo.
They have the powerblock, bravo. Now nothing. Ok they powerblocked, but now SG want to 180 saying that they weren't all that good? I just gotta call BS when I see it.
<DarkSider> Well SG told me they have some new kick ass members and can take the whole resistance now.
<Garrett> well a resistance isn't going to work if people aren't going to be online for it. And with 3 alliances working together... is it even worth it to try and resist?
The top 3 wont war. no matter what. they won't expose their flanks for the rest of the game to jump in.
Twigley has lude, but he's just been beating his chest and blowing hot air mainly amounting to nothing. SG did however talk about how easy it was to get acres and ripped your siggy to show how TBA just swarms the resistance.
Now they are getting picked off and they want people to stop having a go at them.
<DarkSider> Don't you think at least closer to end the ego's will want their alliance in #1 spot ?
<Garrett> I think complacency has set in. If they war at the end it will be in the last week. It will amount to alot of nothing as most of them will be wanting to capture a top 50 spot.
It's a crap round filled with crap players. no drive. no emotion. no will to be original or daring.
The only time they show emotion is on the forums, but it's not often and most of it is shamless lies.
<DarkSider> You give Twigley a chance to steal Inimical's top spot even with players desire to portal in individual rankings ? You might be right and there isn't a move done until very late in round. It's been said JJ has the better alliance and Twigs had a slower start so it might be dangerous for them to wish the win too much ^^
<Garrett> I don't know which players are in which alliance so who has the better what is subjective. By rank JJ has the better alliance. Could twigs make a move? Probably, but I doubt it will be direct as he won't have the .... backbone. I see him more trying to organize a wave on war?huh? or whoever is in range and then slipping info on Inimicals real to try and damage their value
I challenge every alliance leader out there to make the round as interesting out there as possible. the challenge falls on mostly deaf ears, but it's expected around here.
I mean if you are expecting Cyrus to mastermind your resistance, your resistance may have issues.
Someone else actually 3-4 someones need to step up and help organize and make sure to keep their ally mates online.
<DarkSider> You think resistance was kinda weak ? I'm a bit anoyed by this "we couldn't do anything".
<Garrett> People care too much about score. They don't think they are powerful enough unless they have at least 10m of their preferred unit
They can't think teamwise enough... yeah I only have 500k strikers and they have 10m bots... but your 500k plus his 500k and someone elses 500k and so on... it will equal the numbers. losing land is a risk of the game. learn that killing troops is better than retaining land at this point and get your enemies dead.
War is a test of will. Whoever's will breaks first, loses. Right now the resistance has no will.
If I cba i'd create a solo account, rush tba the last 2 months with all eta 5 units and do more damage to them. Proving that I'm better than TBA and the resistance single handedly. Slackers.
<DarkSider> Ok what else .. who do you wish to win the round ?
<Garrett> I have no favorites this round. I of course wish War Huh? the best of luck, but they had an opportunity to crush SG early and often and possibly changing the outcome of the round. It'd be a better round 10x over if they had tried.
<DarkSider> any last words ?
<Garrett> Thanks TBA for letting me sleep with their girlfriends and moms while they were busy trying to control the round.
Starting with Polo from War? Huh:
DarkSider: So it seems resistance gave up, and TBA is easly dominating by their massive combined score and to be honest i don't think if they stay together there is any chance all 3 of them to die.
DarkSider: You think the 3 allies will get full credit or just the top alliance for winning ?
Polo: None of them will get credit. They're pretty much a bunch of people so desperate to win that they'll do anything to do so. Even if they're not having fun (which everyone in War? is) .
DarkSider: How do you cope with defending ? They attack all together or just send random attacks desperate to get a grab on the few targets in range ?
Polo: They keep trying to "mass" us and fail epically everytime. Most of the time they either run away or die. I don't even know why they bother. A bunch of noobs, the "good" players are the ones without targets
DarkSider Any last words ?
Polo: To TBA: don't spend the next 51 days being bored as hell just to get a win (that none will give a **** about anyway) - do something interesting!
And then for some extra warming up let's light TDL and see their opinions:
<DarkSider> Do you see TBA falling by the end of the round if they don't break up ? Or even will it be another resistance ?
<Ogluk> honestly, i personally cant see them falling unless they split. A resistance could deny SG a top 3 finish, but bring the whole lot down cant see it happening. I also think its highly unlikely they'll split, now that half of them have been in all the allies or something
<DarkSider> If they do end winning, how much credit you and your alliance will give TBA and how much to the winning alliance of the 3 ?
<Ogluk> I'll still say well done to them, even if it isn't the most challenging of wins, Inimical have done well to stay ahead of the other 2 in land stealing
Ofc assuming Twigley doesnt engineer it so that Overlude win... which i can see happening.<DarkSider> Got a last word from thermolamp ?
<Ogluk> hmm, to everyone not in TBA, enjoy the defending, enjoy watching them suicide on defence and most of all, have a great rest of the round
Message for TBA .. hmm, they dont need a message, they have each other for company.
Quickly to BW who might not be involved in the situation but his comments are usually funny
<DarkSider> What you think of the resistance vs TBA ?
<Blackwolf> Resistance vs TBA was nothing but a laugh. It still is. Polo, Martin,Dachi, f0xx all keeping lots of noise on forums etc. but when they needed to actually do something on field they simply failed. Now they have reversed to yelling on forums and nothing else. They like know themselves that resistance is futile, but wont have courage to admit it or die trying.
<DarkSider> So you think they'll keep trying ?
<Blackwolf> You just never ever think of possibility of losing your war. You close your eyes and give your best shot. It either is enought or it is not. After you have questioned yourself and your doings you simply cant go back.
I am sorry that I couldn't give you anything too fancy and juicefull but it is hard to make lots of stories out of very dull and boring round.
After beeing threatened with extinction for not taking Asmo an interview in first article i had a hold of him this time:
DarkSider: What do you think about the events at top ?
Asmo: I think it's a sad situation when allies have to powerblock and use loopholes and exploits in order to win a round just to be the first winners of a new age. Powerblocks are nothing new so cant fault them for that but the way they used it this round is lower than any I have ever seen.
<DarkSider> You think all 3 will stay together till end ? Or lack of targets and boredom will make them split ?
<Asmo> No, I dont think they have what it takes to stay together. One or the other will decide they want/deserve the win more and then it will be like the old saying, no honor amongst thieves.
<DarkSider> What you think it's the reasoning behind such a big powerblock ? We had 2 alliances working together for a longer period of time and fight it out later, but this one is "a bit" different
<Asmo> I really cant see a reason behind it. It doesnt make sense to give someone a win. Take it and its yours but dont expect me to hand it to you.
<DarkSider> Maybe they wanted a win really bad ? And who is they or who is he ?
<Asmo> I dont even think "they" know who the leader is.
<DarkSider> The initial rumour was that Twigley was the mastermind, but since Inimical is said to be the better alliance i wonder how Twigley plans a win here.
<Asmo> Twigs is smart enough to let someone else be the fall guy
<DarkSider> I personally don't see Twigley accepting rank 2. I don't know JJ too well but i guess he is proud enough not to let Twig steal his win.
However, assuming the 3 stay together and one of them wins, what you think they'll get from it ? How will history remember them ?
<Asmo> If they stay together it will be a tainted victory and everyone will remember the 3 tools who gave the big tool the win. And if it is Twigs brainchild, then I know he has a plan for taking number 1. I would if I was him.
<DarkSider> What you think of resistance then ? They gave up too easy ? It might look hard to take 60 members but massing one alliance at a time it's a viable option and i think it might have worked if the pressure was constant.
<Asmo> I think we should of kept it up and went for them one after the other. We should still be doing that now but IMO the main problem with a resistance is that people dont see results right away and they become disilluisoned and give up. They take time to succeed, not just a few days of hits.
<DarkSider> Any last words ? For TBA or resistance ?
<Asmo> Just watch your backs cause this aint over yet.
<DarkSider> To whom is this adressed to ?
<Asmo> both to be honest
You heard it from the man himself, and going to grab Cyrus to say a word for Chance:
<DarkSider> Why did the resistance stop ? You guys had some success and it looked pretty good for a while.
<Cyrus> Not to blow my own trumpet, but no-one else would organise but me, fair play to Martin he helped me once or twice but apart from that it was mainly me motivating everyone, i managed to get 8 allis involved which is why we were successful, and due to SG's defence falling like a pack of cards
I then left for 2 days and everything stopped. SG regroup and TBA switched members to help them out which wouldnt have helped them if we had kept up the resistance.
<DarkSider> So why you didn't give it another go when you got back ?
<Cyrus> in this time i went away for 2 days, we got trashed quite a bit, then they had a go at war huh, and TDL etc .. so we were regrouping ourselves and no-one else seemed really interested.
<DarkSider> You think resistance gonna have another go at them or you just wait and defend till end ?
I actually had a word with SG and seems they're confident they can take the resistance now, got new recruits and Inim and Lude members went back in their wings.
<Cyrus> they really cant we've been rushing them, even inim cant stop our rushes so what chance do they have?
I've promised SG members that i will not let them finish 3rd, they are very cocky and back it up with nothing, they assume the ranks have been decided when far from it right now. If we manage to catch SG offgard we could bring them down ourselves without any help.
As far as bringing all 3 down who knows. Although im sure later on in the round Twigley will wanna kill SG because they are potentially deadweight.
<DarkSider> I don't agree with that, twigley needs a shield to take the bullets for them. If SG dies they are next target for resistance. And imo Twigley still wants to win the round and having resistance on his ass while Inim sits on acres it's not the most apealing idea.
<Cyrus> who said we couldnt take lude out first?
<DarkSider> Well the rumour is SG is the weakest
<Cyrus> they are the weakest link. Although tbh i think we could break even inims and ludes defence if we had the numbers we did on SG.
<DarkSider> You think the trio will stay together btw ? or you hope they'll break at one point ?
<Cyrus> i have a feeling twigley will turn on SG. I know JJ wont budge, and SG wont wanna turn on twigley without help from JJ, and JJ wont help SG hit twigley.
<DarkSider> Why not ? maybe Lude will outgrow JJ... and i don't think JJ will just accept defeat.
<Cyrus> twigley wont hit JJ he has no reason to. What he would do is ditch Sg though.
<DarkSider> If Twig wants #1 wouldn't he try things to get in front of Inim ?
<Cyrus> yeah, with the acres from SG
And bizarely DA said he would rather die by being backstabbed than to a resistance.
<DarkSider> Maybe his wish will come true then
<Cyrus> i've a strong feeling it will
<DarkSider> If one of them will win however, and the trio remains at top .. how do you think they'll be remembered ? After all a win is a win, right ?
<Cyrus> they will be remembered as powerblocking noobs, 1 alliance will have a poor win and a bad rep to follow, the other 2 allis will be remember by not winning and also have bad history.
Side notes in history books are always the most important. You'll be remebered for the good and bads things you do, but 1 bad thing can crush everything you achieved before hand.
<DarkSider> Any last declarations ?
<Cyrus> Powerblockers are noobs, however big or small they might be.SG will NOT finish 3rd. And .. Watch Your Backs .. who knows when we might strike?
I was about to call it off with Chance but IoF appeared and took the mic to say the big guy's point of view:
<DarkSider> What you think of resistance ? It was weak ? Why did it stop ?
<IceOfire> I thought the resistance was very well organised by Cyrus, he worked hard finding targets for alliances and offliners, but it was only made weak by other alliances lack of help. Cyrus was the ONLY person to organise the hits. No one else did, so when he didnt organise a hit, no 1 stepped up, no1 took his place. It also didnt help with the member switching until that was stopped, but they put FeR and JJ in SG and kinda stopped most of our hits. No rushes were ever organised, we were just lazy.
<DarkSider> I saw in many posts that non TBA players call TBA noobs. You don't think this lack of interest from resistance and alliances which call themselfs better actually says alot about their determination and organization which IS skill ? It makes little sense to me to claim you're better if you don't bring enough facts to back it up.
<IceOfire> Well i think it was more the tactic they used, instead of fronting up and making the round fun (which pre-round it looked like it was going to be) they used a poor tactic. Not only that but the fact even now they have won, they are sticking together. Its like "Enjoy your 60 days of doing nothing and achieving nothing" Its why many members are slowing leaving
They feel no pride, no sucess, no hard word. Its like they are ashamed.
<DarkSider> Yeah but i was asking about those posts where Chance and WH members say their alliance has more skill/is better. You think there are any real grounds for that claim ? Or it's all just a moaning for the tactics they used ?
<IceOfire> Well i think its a bit of both if im honest, i have no doubt in my mind that WH and Chance have more talent to win. But it was very de-moralising trying to take on 3 alliances bigger than us and when you organised a hit on them, having people 300% your size retal you there wasnt much we could do, which is why the moaning started.
<DarkSider> Yeah but the difference was TBA found a way to protect their 1 wing against 5 alliance incoming while resistance doesn't have the strenght and will to attack 5 vs 1 and find a way to win it. Morale is part of skill
<IceOfire> Their tactic worked for them, there wasnt much we could do. There sheer numbers that retaled and the size of them. Basically, we hit an alliance bigger than us, the have 2 even bigger ones retal us, stealing more land than we steal. These retals being 300% our size, so we do 60% LET mobs on SG, then they put 5 BIG inim members in the allliance who alone can beat most of our inc, as our mobs were smaller due to retals. We couldnt win
<DarkSider> Well i'll leave it at that tho you have to see that if SG had the same pesimistic thinking "we can't defend vs 5 alliances at a time" ; "there's nothing we can do" the situation was different
You think the trio will split later in round ? Twigley must want to win and JJ aswell, no idea about steve but i'm sure he wouldn't say no
<IceOfire> Well Steve is happy with rank 3 as SG has never been that high and he knows if the alliances go 1v1v1 he is *beep*. They are useless, so Steve is on the side of "don't break up". Twigs and JJ will both want to win and i think eventually one of them will break it. And i hope its JJ who kills Twigs. Lude have done nothing this round. Inim were strong and held rank 1, did well in flak wars, not a too bad alliance. SG were battling a bit and getting a bit more involved - even if their attacks atm *beep*
Lude have been poor so i hope JJ does smash him. I just hope JJ grows some balls. Anybody who is willing to stay in TBA for a portal rank, should have their legs chopped off. Enjoy 60 days of boredom and WH and chance PWNing you in defence.
I have some moderate respect for Inim, some very gd friends/players in that alliance, but SG are a joke which is what pains me when i see them ranked higher.
<DarkSider> Cyrus said he promised SG won't finish 3rd. You back up that promise ?
<IceOfire> Their n00bish attacks on WH and chance, we are often sharing funny BRs of TBA naabs dying on clear defence. Then they pull the "we want lower score" card out, if you want lower score and more targets, maybe strap some balls on and hit the 2 big alliances either side of you.
The top 10 have *beep* all land, and it wont increase much between now and end of round. So enjoy.
I will do all in my power to make SG's life hell. Dont get me wrong i dont hate these players, just think their fashion of winning and attitude is *****.
<DarkSider> You said 'SG winning' so i take if if TBA ends ranks 1-2-3 you'll think TBA won the round or since the game offers no recognition to winged groups there will be just 1 winner and 2 helping hands ?
<IceOfire> There is 1 winner. Anybody after that is the first loser, 2nd loser and so on. So if they power block to rank 2 and 3 .. congratulations, you have won...oh wait ...nothing.
I just hope for the sake of the game, JJ grows a testicle or 2.
Rated him alot more than *beep* the *beep* of Twigs.
<DarkSider> I agree, and i have a deep curiousity how the feelings inside TBA will change when the end of round gets closer and 2 alliances get jealous of 3rd winning
<IceOfire> Aye, the jealous factor of Twigs or JJ who ever is in rank 2 will kick in sooner or later. IF one of them really doesnt backstabb ill be dissappointed. Its a war game, have fun and get kills.
I'd love to see Twigs lose to JJ but not as much as seeing DA being castrated.
<DarkSider> any last words ?
<IceOfire> Yea, anybody who stays in TBA is a score queening *beep* of Twigley and JJ.
Well this guy was on fire
Thanks all for interviews and stay tuned to hear TBA reply soon Edit: I also wanted a neutral opinion on this and Garrett seemed like the perfect candidate
Will add here his interview:<DarkSider> So, you read non TBA interviews, you think any of them is full of *beep* ?
<Garrett> well Asmo of course cuz i've never seen discworld organize anything.
<DarkSider> But honestly if Asmo steped in to organize you think players would follow him ? Main quality of an organizer is ppl to have faith in his abilities even if he is required to just cut an onion.
<Garrett> Indeed and as I've never seen him step up to the plate I doubt he could get people to go along with his attack plan. Even if it was the most brilliant thing in the world. DW may have been around for 20 rounds, but I think it's out of sheer comfortability. This is my niche and this is where I will stay.
He mentioned intentions of going for the win. Did he attempt to recruit ftw or expect people to request to join the winning team? I'd like them to get fired up and do something.
But I digress. The people with the most concise statements like polo and ogluk are probably the closest to real events. IoF while going long did have some nice points.
<Garrett> Well IoF can be a contender if he has the motivation, but what I see all too frequently and a big reason for my leaving the game... is that contactability is the norm now. It's like most alliances expect 2-4 people watching 24/7 while everyone else goes and does something. Being contactable used to mean, once in a rare while we'll get you up for emergencies... now people get pranked if someone farts in the channel.
So like the resistances, people will get on and send and then go offline, expecting the organizers to not only set up the attack, but to watch everyone's attack.
Prank EVERYONE if there is a problem, then prank EVERYONE if there is another wave. people just cba to keep up with all that crap.
Used to be... when you had an alliance, you had a big active group and if you were about to be mullered we'd do what we could to notify you and save you.
<DarkSider> Anyway let's stick more to the alliances and players involved in the round.
What you think of TBA and their leaders in particular ?
<Garrett> I really don't see why any of them agreed to a powerblock if there wasn't a plan for someone to usurp down the line.I mean this is the laziest of the lazy we're talking here. So lazy that they had to freeze 10% of the playerbase to make it easy for them to coast. And they all seem happy with the arrangement. How is this a testament to skill? Happily bragging about acres when they've done nothing?
Powerblocking happens. Usually not with 3, it's stifling the round imo.
They have the powerblock, bravo. Now nothing. Ok they powerblocked, but now SG want to 180 saying that they weren't all that good? I just gotta call BS when I see it.
<DarkSider> Well SG told me they have some new kick ass members and can take the whole resistance now.
<Garrett> well a resistance isn't going to work if people aren't going to be online for it. And with 3 alliances working together... is it even worth it to try and resist?
The top 3 wont war. no matter what. they won't expose their flanks for the rest of the game to jump in.
Twigley has lude, but he's just been beating his chest and blowing hot air mainly amounting to nothing. SG did however talk about how easy it was to get acres and ripped your siggy to show how TBA just swarms the resistance.
Now they are getting picked off and they want people to stop having a go at them.
<DarkSider> Don't you think at least closer to end the ego's will want their alliance in #1 spot ?
<Garrett> I think complacency has set in. If they war at the end it will be in the last week. It will amount to alot of nothing as most of them will be wanting to capture a top 50 spot.
It's a crap round filled with crap players. no drive. no emotion. no will to be original or daring.
The only time they show emotion is on the forums, but it's not often and most of it is shamless lies.
<DarkSider> You give Twigley a chance to steal Inimical's top spot even with players desire to portal in individual rankings ? You might be right and there isn't a move done until very late in round. It's been said JJ has the better alliance and Twigs had a slower start so it might be dangerous for them to wish the win too much ^^
<Garrett> I don't know which players are in which alliance so who has the better what is subjective. By rank JJ has the better alliance. Could twigs make a move? Probably, but I doubt it will be direct as he won't have the .... backbone. I see him more trying to organize a wave on war?huh? or whoever is in range and then slipping info on Inimicals real to try and damage their value
I challenge every alliance leader out there to make the round as interesting out there as possible. the challenge falls on mostly deaf ears, but it's expected around here.
I mean if you are expecting Cyrus to mastermind your resistance, your resistance may have issues.
Someone else actually 3-4 someones need to step up and help organize and make sure to keep their ally mates online.
<DarkSider> You think resistance was kinda weak ? I'm a bit anoyed by this "we couldn't do anything".
<Garrett> People care too much about score. They don't think they are powerful enough unless they have at least 10m of their preferred unit
They can't think teamwise enough... yeah I only have 500k strikers and they have 10m bots... but your 500k plus his 500k and someone elses 500k and so on... it will equal the numbers. losing land is a risk of the game. learn that killing troops is better than retaining land at this point and get your enemies dead.
War is a test of will. Whoever's will breaks first, loses. Right now the resistance has no will.
If I cba i'd create a solo account, rush tba the last 2 months with all eta 5 units and do more damage to them. Proving that I'm better than TBA and the resistance single handedly. Slackers.
<DarkSider> Ok what else .. who do you wish to win the round ?
<Garrett> I have no favorites this round. I of course wish War Huh? the best of luck, but they had an opportunity to crush SG early and often and possibly changing the outcome of the round. It'd be a better round 10x over if they had tried.
<DarkSider> any last words ?
<Garrett> Thanks TBA for letting me sleep with their girlfriends and moms while they were busy trying to control the round.
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