Re: Petition: Don't take away the 'of'!
^LOL at BW
But
If anyone takes away my "of" ill take away their manhood!!!
SIGNED
^LOL at BW
But
If anyone takes away my "of" ill take away their manhood!!!
SIGNED
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Petition: Don't take away the 'of'!
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DarkSider
Tree Surgeon
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Re: Petition: Don't take away the 'of'!
Heavily disagree
If you look around many ignore the 'of' anyway and i don't see the problem with making something optional if it that stays in the way. If you want to use of in your names go ahead but i think it limits creativity and confuses begginers.
And all this petition threads are BS as users like to do an action after reading the thread and the only thing allowed is vote yes. What happened with the normal vote in forums ?
Heavily disagree
If you look around many ignore the 'of' anyway and i don't see the problem with making something optional if it that stays in the way. If you want to use of in your names go ahead but i think it limits creativity and confuses begginers.
And all this petition threads are BS as users like to do an action after reading the thread and the only thing allowed is vote yes. What happened with the normal vote in forums ?
Re: Petition: Don't take away the 'of'!
I agree that there should be a vote, but i dont see how it limits creativity at all. You said yourself that some people ignore the of in thinking their name. Therefore they are treating it as a single name, and would not be any different without it. I think it adds creativity as people can choose to ignore it, or they can think of a name to go with it. I dont see your logic as it is not given, so please contradict me with reasoning.
And i mentioned in my previous post that confusion can simply be averted by adding simple explanations or side notes. Words can be used in many clever, simple and useful ways. Maybe a slight change in the signing up process could help.
So i cannot see a reason to get rid of it.
But i really think the thread should be changed to a vote, not a petition
I agree that there should be a vote, but i dont see how it limits creativity at all. You said yourself that some people ignore the of in thinking their name. Therefore they are treating it as a single name, and would not be any different without it. I think it adds creativity as people can choose to ignore it, or they can think of a name to go with it. I dont see your logic as it is not given, so please contradict me with reasoning.
And i mentioned in my previous post that confusion can simply be averted by adding simple explanations or side notes. Words can be used in many clever, simple and useful ways. Maybe a slight change in the signing up process could help.
So i cannot see a reason to get rid of it.
But i really think the thread should be changed to a vote, not a petition
No-Dachi
Official Helper
Re: Petition: Don't take away the 'of'!
A vote and a petition are two entirely different things.
Signed.
A vote and a petition are two entirely different things.
Signed.
DarkSider
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Re: Petition: Don't take away the 'of'!
We can safetly assume all other forum users who read this suggestion but didn't signed are against it then.
And tim, forcing players to use 'of' in the middle of their name is restricting them to use certain patterns. I for one got bored of the same watcher of porn, balls of steel, sound of silence, all the backwords names trying to make fo fit in the name or all the names with of integrated in a single word. Really, after 30 rounds we need some more freedom, it's getting booring.
Yes owner of company is "old school" and some put high value on tradition and i respect that. However nothing will stop them to look old school while those that like a different pattern for their name can also have it if the 'of' is not forced in names anymore.
No-Dachi said:
We can safetly assume all other forum users who read this suggestion but didn't signed are against it then.
And tim, forcing players to use 'of' in the middle of their name is restricting them to use certain patterns. I for one got bored of the same watcher of porn, balls of steel, sound of silence, all the backwords names trying to make fo fit in the name or all the names with of integrated in a single word. Really, after 30 rounds we need some more freedom, it's getting booring.
Yes owner of company is "old school" and some put high value on tradition and i respect that. However nothing will stop them to look old school while those that like a different pattern for their name can also have it if the 'of' is not forced in names anymore.
Re: Petition: Don't take away the 'of'!
the fundamentle point of "of" was lost 20-25 rounds ago.
being able to create any name you please will bring alot more creativity imo
NOT SIGNED
the fundamentle point of "of" was lost 20-25 rounds ago.
being able to create any name you please will bring alot more creativity imo
NOT SIGNED
tobapopalos
Hydroponics Developer
Re: Petition: Don't take away the 'of'!
You can create any name you please even with the "of". Just do it without the "of" :?
You can create any name you please even with the "of". Just do it without the "of" :?
Re: Petition: Don't take away the 'of'!
but then it looks daft when on a news report it says, 1000000000 people from Mr of Boombastic with arrive to attack you.
why dont YOU just put the of in, that seems the more sensible option, this way appeals to more folk than having the of there. it cannot be any worse than current because those that want of in their name can put it there and those who want someonething else can do that.
simple logics really...
but then it looks daft when on a news report it says, 1000000000 people from Mr of Boombastic with arrive to attack you.
why dont YOU just put the of in, that seems the more sensible option, this way appeals to more folk than having the of there. it cannot be any worse than current because those that want of in their name can put it there and those who want someonething else can do that.
simple logics really...
tobapopalos
Hydroponics Developer
Re: Petition: Don't take away the 'of'!
I just prefer having to find a name to fit around the "of" rather than just sticking the "of" in myself. It's a subtle difference, but an important one.
I like the creative side of IDs, and I think that if you get rid of the "of" names won't be as interesting anymore.
I just prefer having to find a name to fit around the "of" rather than just sticking the "of" in myself. It's a subtle difference, but an important one.
I like the creative side of IDs, and I think that if you get rid of the "of" names won't be as interesting anymore.
Re: Petition: Don't take away the 'of'!
all i can say is 1k players 15 signs?
point proven.
all i can say is 1k players 15 signs?
point proven.
Alcibiades
Plant Geneticist
Re: Petition: Don't take away the 'of'!
That sir, is a problem with the playerbase, not the system. Just because people are too incompetent to think of new names doesn't mean the 'of' should go.
DarkSider said:
That sir, is a problem with the playerbase, not the system. Just because people are too incompetent to think of new names doesn't mean the 'of' should go.
Re: Petition: Don't take away the 'of'!
its offering disversity you foo', if you wanna put of in your name then you can STILL do it.
its offering disversity you foo', if you wanna put of in your name then you can STILL do it.
tobapopalos
Hydroponics Developer
Re: Petition: Don't take away the 'of'!
Not even slightly. It's only 15 signs from the people who have read the forums properly since yesterday, not from the entire playerbase.
Cyrus said:all i can say is 1k players 15 signs?
point proven.
Not even slightly. It's only 15 signs from the people who have read the forums properly since yesterday, not from the entire playerbase.
Alcibiades
Plant Geneticist
Re: Petition: Don't take away the 'of'!
not to mention only 713 players with forum accounts. 90% of whom do not post with any sort of regularity or visit forums on any regular basis.
tobapopalos said:Cyrus said:all i can say is 1k players 15 signs?
point proven.
Not even slightly. It's only 15 signs from the people who have read the forums properly since yesterday, not from the entire playerbase.
not to mention only 713 players with forum accounts. 90% of whom do not post with any sort of regularity or visit forums on any regular basis.
TheNamelessWonder
Tree Surgeon
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Re: Petition: Don't take away the 'of'!
Hope you're joking.
Cyrus said:all i can say is 1k players 15 signs?
point proven.
Hope you're joking.
Re: Petition: Don't take away the 'of'!
a petition needs to be a large number of the player base voting, like you said yourself your not gonna get that. so pointless?
taking away of and allowing names which can be created however suits the gamer is a better way toi appeal to more people.
it does undoubtably appeal to more folks, you yourselves are arguing my point really. you wanna use of, i dont. therefore this system is *useable* by both of us?
a petition needs to be a large number of the player base voting, like you said yourself your not gonna get that. so pointless?
taking away of and allowing names which can be created however suits the gamer is a better way toi appeal to more people.
it does undoubtably appeal to more folks, you yourselves are arguing my point really. you wanna use of, i dont. therefore this system is *useable* by both of us?
Alcibiades
Plant Geneticist
Re: Petition: Don't take away the 'of'!
Well Cyrus, the thing is, I liked the whole 'company names' aspect thing, and that idea is somewhat flushed down the tubes when the 'of' portion is gone. I admit that I too am tired of seeing things like DS posted, i hate backwards names, i don't like the simple Balls of steel type name; but occasionally i'll see a really well written 'of' one and it makes me chuckle.
i liked the Company of Company names and while I guess it won't be a huge difference in the grand scheme of things, I just don't like the change for change sake. i haven't seen a good reason as to why the 'of' is being removed, and of the ones bandied about the most often i've heard that it is because the NICK of NICK is too complicated for new players; and that is just a big steaming pile of crap. If you can't figure out NICK of NICK, then you're going to be helplessly lost when you actually start playing, not to mention you probably can't tie your own shoe laces up in the morning.
The 'of' enforced a certain amount of standardization which I enjoyed as names are easy to remember because the format is pretty rigid. That's why i liked the system. yes it's not a huge hassle as those of us who still want it can do the 'of' portion but i just think it'll send ingame nicks into chaos and it will be too messy.
Well Cyrus, the thing is, I liked the whole 'company names' aspect thing, and that idea is somewhat flushed down the tubes when the 'of' portion is gone. I admit that I too am tired of seeing things like DS posted, i hate backwards names, i don't like the simple Balls of steel type name; but occasionally i'll see a really well written 'of' one and it makes me chuckle.
i liked the Company of Company names and while I guess it won't be a huge difference in the grand scheme of things, I just don't like the change for change sake. i haven't seen a good reason as to why the 'of' is being removed, and of the ones bandied about the most often i've heard that it is because the NICK of NICK is too complicated for new players; and that is just a big steaming pile of crap. If you can't figure out NICK of NICK, then you're going to be helplessly lost when you actually start playing, not to mention you probably can't tie your own shoe laces up in the morning.
The 'of' enforced a certain amount of standardization which I enjoyed as names are easy to remember because the format is pretty rigid. That's why i liked the system. yes it's not a huge hassle as those of us who still want it can do the 'of' portion but i just think it'll send ingame nicks into chaos and it will be too messy.
Re: Petition: Don't take away the 'of'!
personally ive not actually read what azzer is implemtning instead, as far as i know you can write whatever name you want, for example i could call my id Bob Marley. my names are usually song names, film titles or something thats associated with me.
the thread i made about people using past nicks etc, with of being there limits what users can do. limitations are not a way for a business to expand, azzer needs to appeal to more areas of the market. noobs usually have there name as something like farmer jo of green fields limited. that doesnt make me chuckle, i agree some people have been really creative but the creativity is limited.
personally ive not actually read what azzer is implemtning instead, as far as i know you can write whatever name you want, for example i could call my id Bob Marley. my names are usually song names, film titles or something thats associated with me.
the thread i made about people using past nicks etc, with of being there limits what users can do. limitations are not a way for a business to expand, azzer needs to appeal to more areas of the market. noobs usually have there name as something like farmer jo of green fields limited. that doesnt make me chuckle, i agree some people have been really creative but the creativity is limited.