Tooltip for stealth when hacking.

[Enrico]

Okay, the headline is a bit cryptic. What I mean is that usually when you hack someone you can get the tooltip for the different units by hovering mouse-over. But as stealth-units don't show up you have to go through the manual instead.

Maybe all possible stealth-units could show up at the bottom like a:

"This ID may have: NINJA, SGT, SPIKE TRAP, STEALTH THIEVES, STEALTH HARVESTERS, ASSASSINS, SECRET AGENTS" if you all ready can see the guy have cloners.

Likewise, if there are Thug units visible: "This ID may have: TERRORIST LEADERS"

Basically, it won't show anything you not all ready know from what is visible, but it will save you a rummage through the manual to check whether the Assassins the guy may or may not have have eta 4 or 5...

Naturally, any SO who don't have clones would not register anything, as the hack don't reveal whether the guy is a SO or just haven't started developing.

Maybe helpful for anyone using a phone or similar to browse, as multiple pages can be a bit taxing on many phones.

 

[Alcibiades]

Re: Tooltip for stealth when hacking.

i like it... even though i tend not to use the tooltips all that often, having the option available would be nice.

The only thing that is disappointing is that it removes the first few round newbie experiences with learning about stealth routes. But perhaps that's a good thing.... I remember being quite surprised and confused the first time(s) stealth troops killed me.

 

[saint1d]

Re: Tooltip for stealth when hacking.

I like the idea of not having to go to the manual, but I dont like the idea of saying "this player may have x,y,z troops". This would help me out loads because I am always forgetting about stealth troops especially on military route, and well, it's kinda my fault if I die so I dont think its fair I should get this assistance :lol:

 

[f0xx]

Re: Tooltip for stealth when hacking.

"This ID may have: NINJA, SGT, SPIKE TRAP, STEALTH THIEVES, STEALTH HARVESTERS, ASSASSINS, SECRET AGENTS" if you all ready can see the guy have cloners.

Likewise, if there are Thug units visible: "This ID may have: TERRORIST LEADERS"

Hm... how about "This poster may have: BRAIN"?

Or not...

 

[Garrett]

Re: Tooltip for stealth when hacking.

not that i'm against the idea, but while we are asking for stealth reminders.....


can it also pull up the hax0r and a brief spy summation in the tooltip? can it estimate an advantage ratio and flak needed? Can I also get it to tell me if the id is online or not and how much income i will be making per tick after a grab? will it also project effectiveness gain and alert me of any id's tagging along?

 

[Enrico]

Re: Tooltip for stealth when hacking.

The point isn't stealth-reminders, but not having to open a different page to check the spesifics on all stealth units.

For that matter, just add a list of all stealth units at the bottom of the haxxor page regardless of what route the ID is.

I don't see how that would detract from game. It's not abusable in any way either. You will still need to spy and calculate the target and use you brain and experience, to figure out what if anything he's hiding. In no way or form does it help the attacker. I mean, you get the tooltip for all units in the hack. Or do you purpose we should get rid of the as it makes it to easy?

And Foxx, I'm sorry for you if you feel you have been issued with a dysfunctional brain. But that's not really on topic my friend

 

[Garrett]

Re: Tooltip for stealth when hacking.

my point is more of where do we draw the line with tooltip requests? they are nice, but i think we are looking to use them to cut way down on things.... and IF I'M WRONG I'M SURE SOMEONE WILL TELL ME - but in order to know to give the stealth guess, it will probably have to do something similar to a hax0r each time. I don't think static would be a good idea because then it would check one time and give you incomplete/inaccurate info. so basically i think you'd be asking the tooltip to do an instant hax0r on each id you casually drag your cursor over... so you see where I'm going?

 

[saint1d]

Re: Tooltip for stealth when hacking.

The point isn't stealth-reminders, but not having to open a different page to check the spesifics on all stealth units.

For that matter, just add a list of all stealth units at the bottom of the haxxor page regardless of what route the ID is.

I don't see how that would detract from game. It's not abusable in any way either.

perfect solution

 

[Enrico]

Re: Tooltip for stealth when hacking.

my point is more of where do we draw the line with tooltip requests? they are nice, but i think we are looking to use them to cut way down on things.... and IF I'M WRONG I'M SURE SOMEONE WILL TELL ME - but in order to know to give the stealth guess, it will probably have to do something similar to a hax0r each time. I don't think static would be a good idea because then it would check one time and give you incomplete/inaccurate info. so basically i think you'd be asking the tooltip to do an instant hax0r on each id you casually drag your cursor over... so you see where I'm going?

Huh, I think you misunderstood. Within the haxxorpage, you get the tooltip for each unit present when you hover above the unitname.
But as stealths don't show, you have to cross reference with the manual every time you hack someone who can have stealth.

I suggest all stealthunits by default is listed somewhere on the haxxorpage, so you can hover there to check the stats of stealth units. You would yourself have to figure out whether there actually are any stealth units at the id.

Npw you understand, Im not talking about the tooltip for each ID, which you seem to think.

 

[tobapopalos]

Re: Tooltip for stealth when hacking.

But as stealths don't show, you have to cross reference with the manual every time you hack someone who can have stealth.

Do you? I can't say I've ever had to do that.

 

[Hobbezak]

Re: Tooltip for stealth when hacking.

But as stealths don't show, you have to cross reference with the manual every time you hack someone who can have stealth.

Do you? I can't say I've ever had to do that.

That's because you iz pr0!

On topic: I don't like the idea, might create more confusion than make life easier. It's not sure that there are stealth units, and hax0rs are facts, not guesses.

 

[No-Dachi]

Re: Tooltip for stealth when hacking.

It's not abusable, but I feel it's putting too much info in the tooltips. Cluttering it, sort of.

 

[Dematto]

Re: Tooltip for stealth when hacking.

I'd like it Disabled it on default and give players to options to enable this function (or even just enable 'show all stealth units in bushtarion at the bottom of the hax0r').

I find myself reffering to the manual often for a quick look at a units stats, eta or init, this would save me some time, especially on my mobile phone

 

[DarkSider]

Re: Tooltip for stealth when hacking.

If i'm not mistaking Azzer said he wants to make tooltips for units to work just like tooltips for id's ( [id!1] but something of the sort of [!Petrol bomber] ) and then you can put the stealth units in your journal so we don't get the page even more crowded.