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timthetyrant
28-09-2010, 10:55 AM
so what is the plan for rank 1 and 2? other then send streaming/waving/bashing at ragequit. They seem to not wanna fight each other and would rather continue holding hands and bash RQ. and what has twigley got up his sleeve?
so what is the plan for rank 1 and 2? other then send streaming/waving/bashing at ragequit. They seem to not wanna fight each other and would rather continue holding hands and bash RQ. and what has twigley got up his sleeve?
It doesn't really matter. I've explained this in the chan many times, Tim.
Res wanted to preserve their rank (despite self-admitting they weren't even FTW), so they arranged to 2v1 us with Aphall. I wouldn't have a problem with this, if Res were to actually take advantage of the goldmine of a situation they were presented with. But they didn't. They've sat and done nigh-to nothing.
Now Twigley will catch both alliances up sooner or later, and I hope he dishes appropriate justice to both alliances.
That is all.
*competition
After 2 weeks of constant inc, from 2 alliances, solos, etc, we replanned our play, arranged we were going to play for the fun, etc...
Some of us restarted, just to get new fresh air, and start again to have some fun.
Now, I dont even finished developing strikers, and i receive again another constant train of 10-15 people, and while i check my alliance overwiev, i see everyone is still on constant inc.
Grow some balls, for christ sake.
If you wanted us to actually quit the game, just keep this inc and we will all do it.
Congratulations to Aph/Res, you actually sucked more than what i thinked.
IceOfFire
28-09-2010, 01:56 PM
The thing that made me laugh is Res hit Apha 2 days ago i think it was, and mailed US to help them by following! How pathetic are you guys?!?!?
Lets wave RQ till they are tiny then start a war with Apha and ask for their help (For those who don't believe me i will post the mail later - i am in sleep :P )
It is so so sad!! Then when i asked why they are STILL waving us with Apha, they replied: Because Apha were getting land off us so they jumped in!
1. If you had been warring properly, they wouldn't dare all send out.
2. Wait for them to send at us and then retal!
Not hard! Shows how crappy both alliances are. I understand why Apha didnt hit Res in the winter months (Res were troop heavy on the same score with 50k less land) Now the summer is here, why Apha aren't hitting Res i don't know!
Really really pathetic. End of the day, just really makes you look so poor!
Twigley FTW.
Alcibiades
28-09-2010, 02:02 PM
Twigley FTW.
Never thought I'd second that opinion, but Twigley FTW! It really goes to show my opinion of Aphalla and Res when I'd rather have Twigley win ;)
It's a shame we're still being waved, although I understand much of the reasoning for it. I probably would've behaved differently than Aphalla and Res but who's to say. What's done is done, and you guys have effectively forced another 20 or so players to quit. I won't be playing ftw again, I suspect many of my friends won't be either, and a few returning players who i brought into dRQ won't be returning after this round is done. Congratulations, you had already beaten us, and then felt it necessary to grind us into the dirt, as opposed to warring amongst yourselves. Wouldn't it be more fun to win by annihilating your enemy, rather than outgrowing them with land? For shame, gentlemen, for shame.
@ Alci - funsies alliance next round? :)
Alcibiades
28-09-2010, 03:51 PM
Deal. Comatose II
LuckySports
28-09-2010, 07:47 PM
The thing that made me laugh is Res hit Apha 2 days ago i think it was, and mailed US to help them by following! How pathetic are you guys?!?!?
Lets wave RQ till they are tiny then start a war with Apha and ask for their help (For those who don't believe me i will post the mail later - i am in sleep :P )
We offered you a chance for land, your help was certainly not needed :P Your fault for not capitalizing.
It is so so sad!! Then when i asked why they are STILL waving us with Apha, they replied: Because Apha were getting land off us so they jumped in!
1. If you had been warring properly, they wouldn't dare all send out.
2. Wait for them to send at us and then retal!
Not hard! Shows how crappy both alliances are. I understand why Apha didnt hit Res in the winter months (Res were troop heavy on the same score with 50k less land) Now the summer is here, why Apha aren't hitting Res i don't know!
Really really pathetic. End of the day, just really makes you look so poor!
Twigley FTW.
Tbh, we left you alone for the most part, its not our fault you chose to get fatter w/o getting some units first. Now your just helping Alpha take even more of a land-lead. Eventually they will be able to afford to suicide their troops.
As for a war?
They've tried to hit us, and did well once or twice, but their 2 latest hits have not gone over well for them. It is easier for them to just out-grow us than to try to bash us. Smarter too, since we are a defense oriented.
We aren't FTW.. That is obvious since we have no activity/contactable requirements. We've had pretty much the same people we started with, some who are active and growing, some not so much. We don't force people to get online for attacks, and we don't kick them for getting zeroed. Care for rank? The only reason some of us haven't suicided so we can hit smaller targets is so we don't screw the people who WANT to be competitive over on defense.. I'd much rather be closer to rank 50-60ish hitting solos and such that are in my range.. :( I'm rank 2 instead, and I have to stay that way until I get told to stay when I should recall, or I somehow forget to send out (happens sometimes.. ^_^)
Don't worry though, we won't offer you anymore opportunities :) you do whatever you want. We are enjoying our little "war" with Alpha. Keeping the round interesting.
timthetyrant
28-09-2010, 08:37 PM
i must say alpha wouldnt have stolen so much land off RQ if res wasnt sending with them
LuckySports
28-09-2010, 10:18 PM
We weren't for the most part. 3-4 people have attacked recently, and they were random sends. Alpha got the land because dRAGE thought they were being spiteful, or just don't care anymore. I don't care either way :P I just want to kill something, but no one ever first-ticks me :(
CFalcon
28-09-2010, 10:27 PM
I must say the "we're not ftw" line is a very poor excuse for only attacking properly when you've got backup and then sitting doing nothing when you're left to your own devices. You seemed to be able to manage perfectly FTW standard attacks on RQ when aphal were helping, why the sudden change? If you lose you lose, if you don't reckon you're up to it then that's fair enough, but don't hide under the excuse of FTF.
RQ haven't had any activity or contactibility requirements either, and having members uncontactable/away at key points in the round has certainly hurt us. But we don't use that to explain away our failure this round. It's been politics all the way.
Alcibiades
29-09-2010, 01:28 AM
It's Aphalla. Not Alpha.
On topic. CF speaks the truth, as usual.
Angela
29-09-2010, 02:03 AM
^^
Toast
29-09-2010, 02:20 AM
If you wanted us to actually quit the game, just keep this inc and we will all do it.
dRAGE QUIT, no?
Is the name supposed to be ironic, or are you making it a reality?
LuckySports
29-09-2010, 02:38 AM
I must say the "we're not ftw" line is a very poor excuse for only attacking properly when you've got backup and then sitting doing nothing when you're left to your own devices. You seemed to be able to manage perfectly FTW standard attacks on RQ when aphal were helping, why the sudden change? If you lose you lose, if you don't reckon you're up to it then that's fair enough, but don't hide under the excuse of FTF.
RQ haven't had any activity or contactibility requirements either, and having members uncontactable/away at key points in the round has certainly hurt us. But we don't use that to explain away our failure this round. It's been politics all the way.
We did what, 1 organized attacked on you, maybe 2? Then you hit sleep.. After that, you got raped by random sends because it was 2 different alliances sensing easy land. Who wouldn't send for easy land?
We can manage good attacks when we cba.. :P But most of the time no on cares enough. Im sure Alpha (hehe..) can attest to our laziness in attacking :P
Personally, I'd be attacking more if more people were in my range.. Right now my only targets are either in r1 ally, r3 ally (twigleys ally.. not gonna land by myself ) or solo and a route that I couldn't fight anyway.. See a problem? I would totally suicide if I could! :D but I'm not allowed to yet :(
Btw - RPGs suck to attack with if your not in an ally attack.. everyone just last-ticks you.. :( Maybe if I just massed humvees and shocks?
Alcibiades
29-09-2010, 03:26 AM
After sleepmode was definitely not "random sends." Absolutely NO way. Sorry.
bluehen55
29-09-2010, 03:55 AM
No matter what anyone wants to believe there was absolutely no working together between aph and Res after you came out of sleep, we just both wanted to come for your land.
LuckySports
29-09-2010, 04:29 AM
After sleepmode was definitely not "random sends." Absolutely NO way. Sorry.
random attacking, not random in that we WERE attacking you.. There was no plan, just keep sending and getting land.. :P
Sorry I didn't explain that more fully
Blah, blah, blah. Don't forget that mail Godsend had sent out - I did manage to C/P it before an admin took it down (for whatever reason).
Both top alliances are appalling - My reasoning simply is, if they were any good, one of them would be dead. I was intending to quit after this round anyway - Have fun with another 20 less players, tbh.
Silence
30-09-2010, 01:06 AM
Blah, blah, blah. Don't forget that mail Godsend had sent out - I did manage to C/P it before an admin took it down (for whatever reason).
Both top alliances are appalling - My reasoning simply is, if they were any good, one of them would be dead. I was intending to quit after this round anyway - Have fun with another 20 less players, tbh.
Yeah DAMN THOSE TOP ALLIANCES. They killed the alliance which they felt were the most threat. So thats perfectly acceptable.
And an FYI talk for youself rather than the alliance as a whole. I certainly will not quit playing just because I got killed. That would be hypocritical as Ive been on the attacking side of bashing before.
Get over it, quit whining. Its boring.
LuckySports
30-09-2010, 02:54 AM
Blah, blah, blah. Don't forget that mail Godsend had sent out - I did manage to C/P it before an admin took it down (for whatever reason).
Both top alliances are appalling - My reasoning simply is, if they were any good, one of them would be dead. I was intending to quit after this round anyway - Have fun with another 20 less players, tbh.
GS is a moody individual.. :P
If everyone quit once their alliance got beat down, I wouldn't be playing this round.. In fact, you would be one of the reasons I wouldn't be playing, as you did last round EXACTLY what we did this round. You saw easy land and went for it, bashing an alliance in the process.
I can't say I have ever enjoyed bashing an alliance, buts its not like you are a bunch of new players who are only kept afloat by a core of decent players. You have plenty of people who know how to play, and to fight.
If/when my alliance gets bashed this round (which will probably happen eventually) You won't see me complaining that the alliances involved are doing anything I wouldn't do. We have plenty of players perfectly capable of doing well..
Hobbezak
30-09-2010, 06:46 AM
Blah, blah, blah. Don't forget that mail Godsend had sent out - I did manage to C/P it before an admin took it down (for whatever reason).
Both top alliances are appalling - My reasoning simply is, if they were any good, one of them would be dead. I was intending to quit after this round anyway - Have fun with another 20 less players, tbh.
Yeah DAMN THOSE TOP ALLIANCES. They killed the alliance which they felt were the most threat. So thats perfectly acceptable.
And an FYI talk for youself rather than the alliance as a whole. I certainly will not quit playing just because I got killed. That would be hypocritical as Ive been on the attacking side of bashing before.
Get over it, quit whining. Its boring.
fu Silence.
Stop making these excellent posts or you'll overtake me on rep on these boards again. *monobrow anger face* |: (
And an FYI talk for youself rather than the alliance as a whole. I certainly will not quit playing just because I got killed. That would be hypocritical as Ive been on the attacking side of bashing before.
Get over it, quit whining. Its boring.
Who said anything about everyone quitting? It was in regard to 20 players no longer being in the brunt of everything, not everyone quitting.
I didn't quit because I died - In fact, I was one of the few left alive, I just decided I didn't like the thug route at all, then was just bored of playing when I restarted. Why continue when you find no longer find a game fun?
You made an implication of my being incompetent within IRC, but I didn't see much of you waking up at night to help organise things defensively - Nor have I ever played thug route before. It was alright, but definitely not to my play style at all.
Regarding Lucky's response - Bashing, you say? WFM never even attacked once as an alliance, so what are you actually trying to say?
/facepalm
Silence
30-09-2010, 10:45 AM
And an FYI talk for youself rather than the alliance as a whole. I certainly will not quit playing just because I got killed. That would be hypocritical as Ive been on the attacking side of bashing before.
Get over it, quit whining. Its boring.
Who said anything about everyone quitting? It was in regard to 20 players no longer being in the brunt of everything, not everyone quitting.
I didn't quit because I died - In fact, I was one of the few left alive, I just decided I didn't like the thug route at all, then was just bored of playing when I restarted. Why continue when you find no longer find a game fun?
You made an implication of my being incompetent within IRC, but I didn't see much of you waking up at night to help organise things defensively - Nor have I ever played thug route before. It was alright, but definitely not to my play style at all.
Well I think the issue which needs to be addressed first is the one which you so brilliantly ignored. You instantly left out the "Aren't the top alliances appalling" therefore I don't think that it is wrong for me to suggest that that statement was wrong as they are playing the diplomatic situation at the time well.
Secondly, dRage quit were never supposed to be at the brunt of anything. Thats why I joined. I didn't want to be contactable, I didn't want to play for the win. It was a lot of fun while we tried, we failed. Too bad. I had fun regardless.
Your third point is the incessant whining again so I'll leave that one.
And finally I didn't wake up for defence because well, I just didn't want to. I made it clear when I joined that I'd plan attacks but not be woken up. I was woken up I think twice. So really I went beyond what I signed up to do.
Well I think the issue which needs to be addressed first is the one which you so brilliantly ignored. You instantly left out the "Aren't the top alliances appalling" therefore I don't think that it is wrong for me to suggest that that statement was wrong as they are playing the diplomatic situation at the time well.
Nah, I just thought you might actually of understood what I meant when I posted - The idea that after very much taking out the opposition, that they attack one another. The constant stalemate is just boring to hear about. If either were competent, there would be actual battling going on, and even you cannot contend that point.
A war declaration with so little fighting? BORING.
Ogluk
30-09-2010, 11:11 AM
I love you Silence :D
I love you Silence :D
I DON'T.
My love for him is clearly false. Plebplebpleb. :>
Silence
30-09-2010, 12:30 PM
I love you Silence :D
Hurray!!!!!!! We had fun whilst it lasted :D
I want to play again without all that 'lets try and win' :(
Ogluk
30-09-2010, 12:36 PM
I love you Silence :D
Hurray!!!!!!! We had fun whilst it lasted :D
I want to play again without all that 'lets try and win' :(
Agreed, i think after NOMW i actually vowed not to play ftw again, and then ended up doing so here :(
Problem with such a supposedly capable and active lineup was always going to be the temptation to go for the win
ahh well, back to plan A, chilling out and trying to enjoy the game ^_^
Davis
30-09-2010, 03:20 PM
Seems like Apha are the only alliance that can admit to being FTW :P quite funny one of the most undecided, exciting rounds of a long time and there was still only "one ftw"
Silence
30-09-2010, 03:31 PM
Seems like Apha are the only alliance that can admit to being FTW :P quite funny one of the most undecided, exciting rounds of a long time and there was still only "one ftw"
Easily explained when you think about it.
Aphallatosis were the best; big lead at the start.
Then got killed by 2 v 1 because there were two decent ftf alliances who had no intention of winning. These two alliances fancied some fun so decided to resist because its entertaining.
Subsequently an opportunity arose. And even if an alliance claims they are ftf if there is a possibility of winning they will obviously give it a little try. (Obviously I'm speculating about the intentions of Res of Meus Votum, but I don't think they are *too* unfair, feel free to correct me)
So really its not funny, its just because there were 3 large-ish alliances and the best one (IN MY OPINION) got killed because they had too much incoming from two alliances at once, and I suppose the two ftf alliances, who were fairly active, wanted some kind of revenge.
bluehen55
30-09-2010, 06:30 PM
Really spot on I'd say silence. I don't think anyone began the round thinking about winning, but once Aph came back to the pack it looked like an interesting round that sparked some of us to want to give it a go. However, at the same time no one wanted to impose activity or contactability requirements on those who didn't sign up for ftw play, leaving the alliance as a whole kind of stuck in the middle, and helping to lead to the stalemate you see now.
Lookie what we got here! Maybe I can clear some things up, from my point of view of course.
First, let me start off by saying I have a heavy hand in Apha from attacks, to defending, to politics.
Secondly, yes - This alliance was created with the COMPLETE intention to go ftw. No denying it. We took a HUGE lead in the beginning and dRage/Res came together with a descent Resistance at the time which was too much for us to handle. In the aftermath, dRage and Apha go to war with each other after the dust settles and Res pretty much take a back seat ride to it all - grabbing land from where they could from lower alliances and generally have no incoming.
dRage eventually pulled ahead through all this, and guess what.. Apha/Res returned the 2v1 favor. Tough luck. This basically puts dRage out of the picture after awhile. Imo, most of you lost interest.
Third, Apha and Res are in a DECLARED war state ingame. Shortly after declaring war, we attempted a 4am mass attack which ended up badly for us. We attempted a few more attacks, but at this point we were either killing off troops or trading land - Seemed almost completely pointless if you asked me. So, the great minds came together. Our plan was to cease planned attacks on Res during the winter months and just outgrow them. Sorry dRage, you were just land farms to us. Again, tough luck.
Now, as it stands. There are 3 allies in the top.. 2 claim to be FTF and 1 claims to be FTW. Time will only tell what happens. But, looks like S2S is gonna pass Res.
For the record, Res is pretty inactive and have quite a few who sleep mode almost on a daily basis. Their max online and during attacks is pretty low.. So for those complaining about them, saying they can't be FTF.. Quit crying.
Toodles! <3
NoobCake
30-09-2010, 11:12 PM
Lord help me for saying this...
Silence seems to be the only person making sense at all.
I find it ironic that all of you constant FTW people that do more bashing and waving than any other group is whining about being farmed... not to mention pulling the "causing more people to quit" card since you guys are the ones that laugh at others who do that same thing every round. Nice one!
If Aphallatosis and Res are soooo bad like dax and iof claim why was Aphall dominating at the start. Why did Aphal wait for you to get caught up in score and even pass us in land by a bit (omg you bashed OMG and bribemania you almost caused them all to quit!!) and then fight you 1 on 1 and completely dominate the first 24-36 hours of the "war."
You immediately ran to Res and began a 2 v 1 on us that actually didn't do a whole lot for having so much of a score/land lead vs us by ourselves. We were unlucky with the Server D/C and lost several big people due to them not being able to log in and send out so some quit...
Res didn't want to see the round end so they attacked Rage which gave me a little time to recruit people and refill my alliance. Rage was a fairly clear rank 1 when they attacked and due to being turned down by ogluk what FEW people we had that could... joined in as well.
Mass sleep mode after 2 waves from rank 2 and 3?!? many lulz to that. Especially since you actually thought sleeping and letting Res pass you was going to make you less of a target. When you came out of sleep the same thing happened as it does every round when an alliance mass sleep modes... The others take advantage and strike before they can gather themselves haha. There was no working together, it was a race for land by two alliances that outplayed you guys strategically. Though i agree that Res missed out on an opportunity and never really did much fighting to gain their rank, but why would they if they didn't have too?
Thanks you again for not being like those others silence. Though do enjoy listening to them be the ones whining about the same **** they pull every round.
As for you "FTF" alliances, well those that call themselves FTF... You would not be involved in fighting at the top, waking up several times a night, planning mass attacks, *****ing, or whining if you were FTF so stop lying to yourselves and everyone else.
Go Bribemania for being the only TRUE FTF alliance and not *****ing every time you get inc. I know i have seen inc on them from Res, rage, and S2S at some points all together... though i don't see them whining like you others?!?!?
Cheers,
P.S.
Do not believe a word Ryu says, he is nothing more than my play thing and has no real thoughts or opinions that matter! ;)
CFalcon
30-09-2010, 11:28 PM
Mass sleep mode after 2 waves from rank 2 and 3?!? many lulz to that. Especially since you actually thought sleeping and letting Res pass you was going to make you less of a target.
Apart from this line, I agree with your post. We were under no illusions about what sleep mode would achieve. We knew we'd be jumped on as soon as it was over. We just needed a few days rest. As it turns out it made no difference, but the feeling at the time was that the only way we even had a hope of fighting Res and Aphal at once was to be well rested. Key players were already exhausted from the war with Aphal.
[yoyo]
30-09-2010, 11:31 PM
.
your statement about such stuff is wrong
bribemania is not the only true ftf around.
NoobCake
30-09-2010, 11:49 PM
;65336'].
your statement about such stuff is wrong
bribemania is not the only true ftf around.
There are plenty of FTF I was only generalizing to prove a point regarding Res and Rage.
and Cfalcon, i know most of you had to know what was going to happen... but having your alliance members bad mouth aphall and saying how bad the other alliances are is a joke. Out of all the alliances to be on the 1 side of a 2 v 1 this round rage is the only one to mass sleep... I had 15 guys at one point and we kept on fighting to eventually bounce back.
Lord help me for saying this...
P.S.
Do not believe a word Ryu says, he is nothing more than my play thing and has no real thoughts or opinions that matter! ;)
I was hoping you wouldn't come on here. Sorry master!
/bows down
Angela
01-10-2010, 12:46 AM
As for you "FTF" alliances, well those that call themselves FTF... You would not be involved in fighting at the top, waking up several times a night, planning mass attacks, *****ing, or whining if you were FTF so stop lying to yourselves and everyone else.
You know what you find fun in the game, dont speak for the rest of us, what i find fun could be and probably is the total opposite to you. I don't see any fun in winning (been there done that bought and sold the tshirt many times) the fact that you do is fine for you. I'm happy to go into wars and lose. And be in a ftf alliance is the way to do that (for me anyway).
Iamsmart
01-10-2010, 01:20 AM
/me slaps Angela around with a large trout
CFalcon
01-10-2010, 01:25 AM
What kind of alliance *isn't* "ftf"? Seems like a pointless label to me.
LuckySports
01-10-2010, 02:25 AM
As for you "FTF" alliances, well those that call themselves FTF... You would not be involved in fighting at the top, waking up several times a night, planning mass attacks, *****ing, or whining if you were FTF so stop lying to yourselves and everyone else.
Res can pretty easily claim to be FTF, most of us don't wake up for attacks. If we are online, we send, if not, we don't :P
As far as defense? People woke up in my training alliance last round for defense. That doesn't make them FTW, that makes them willing to help others (different story if you ONLY wake up to send away.. and then go back to sleep w/o defending.. but thats a different story)
And silence pretty much whacked it on the head. Even a FTF alliance can't completely dismiss the opportunity to grow w/o competition, or to take land when it is easy.
And just for the record, we did see dRAGE as the bigger threat, even if they weren't officially FTW, we knew they were much more capable players than what we find in Alpha (Nothing against you guys either) if it had come to a 1v1 between us and dRAGE, we hold no illusions that we would have held out for long..
Although, I also hold no illusions.. It would definitely be more fun to attack if I had more than 4 solo targets.. :P
Hobbezak
01-10-2010, 06:51 AM
;65336'].
your statement about such stuff is wrong
bribemania is not the only true ftf around.
There are plenty of FTF I was only generalizing to prove a point regarding Res and Rage.
and Cfalcon, i know most of you had to know what was going to happen... but having your alliance members bad mouth aphall and saying how bad the other alliances are is a joke. Out of all the alliances to be on the 1 side of a 2 v 1 this round rage is the only one to mass sleep... I had 15 guys at one point and we kept on fighting to eventually bounce back.
Hero, apart from a select few, no one is saying how bad the other alliances are. I do have a problem with you making yourself look much better than we are/were.
We hit sleep because a few people asked for 3 days of rest. We didn't hit sleep because we thought you'd hit on eachother. Ffs, we are all experienced enough to know that that would never happen... We wouldn't have done that either, so why expect you would?
Yes, respect to the people who kept on fighting in your alliance, but your situation is completely different to ours. We had been in a war with you for 1.5 weeks BEFORE being 2v1'd. That's a completely different story to being 2v1'd after not being in a war.
Furthermore, you would only have a select few tired people after 1.5w anyway, after you kickraped half your alliance.
So, comparing our situation to any other alliance, is nonsense.
When you're in a game where a fair few people at the top are 100% contactable, and scores are comparable (at one point all three of us had about equal score), a war becomes more a war of attrition. We lost on that mainly because of timing, imho. But still, as I said in the other topic as well as in this post, good job on you, ryu-, recon and the other people who kept going in apha.
Silence
01-10-2010, 11:53 AM
Lord help me for saying this...
ROFL FUNNY JOKE. Wouldn't it make sense to take a stab at someone who wasn't being fair?
Lord help me for saying this...
Silence seems to be the only person making sense at all.
Because I like to be objective, rather than someone who thinks if they post a load of bollocks they will win a forums war o.0
Lookie what we got here! Maybe I can clear some things up, from my point of view of course.
You didn't actually clear anything up, I was going to deconstruct your post but I can't be bothered. Let's just say that when you speculate about someone else's position try not to make it come across like empirical fact, as you are wrong.
I find it ironic that all of you constant FTW people that do more bashing and waving than any other group is whining about being farmed... not to mention pulling the "causing more people to quit" card since you guys are the ones that laugh at others who do that same thing every round. Nice one!
Agreed, I disliked that also.
If Aphallatosis and Res are soooo bad like dax and iof claim why was Aphall dominating at the start.
Ignore their pathetic political point scoring? As its clearly bollocks. Although I don't recall them saying that maybe I haven't read enough? Correct me if you find evidence please
You immediately ran to Res and began a 2 v 1 on us that actually didn't do a whole lot for having so much of a score/land lead vs us by ourselves.
Now I do recall a post made by IoF showing that you did have a big lead. Which was a fair post. Don't deny it
Secondly you have played the 'We weren't **** because we were miles ahead' card. So I find that a tad hypocritical. So you were the best and miles ahead, yet not that far ahead? Hm I find that difficult to understand. Maybe I'm not following that jumbled sentence?
Res didn't want to see the round end so they attacked Rage which gave me a little time to recruit people and refill my alliance.
Speaking on behalf of another group like it is empirical fact. Someone from res should confirm that really. To be honest, they probably didn't care and wanted some fun. Excuse my speculation.
Mass sleep mode after 2 waves from rank 2 and 3?!? many lulz to that. Especially since you actually thought sleeping and letting Res pass you was going to make you less of a target.
More speculation with no fact. We had a bunch of people with other commitments. We had a fair few who could not play over the weekend.
Thanks you again for not being like those others silence. Though do enjoy listening to them be the ones whining about the same **** they pull every round.
Shame you're like them.
As for you "FTF" alliances, well those that call themselves FTF... You would not be involved in fighting at the top, waking up several times a night, planning mass attacks, *****ing, or whining if you were FTF so stop lying to yourselves and everyone else.
A previous post of mine explained this. If a group of experienced players sense a chance at winning, they will go for it. dRage Quit did, but failed. Fun whilst we tried.
As for you "FTF" alliances, well those that call themselves FTF...
[bla bla bla]
You know what you find fun in the game, dont speak for the rest of us, what i find fun could be and probably is the total opposite to you. I don't see any fun in winning (been there done that bought and sold the tshirt many times) the fact that you do is fine for you. I'm happy to go into wars and lose. And be in a ftf alliance is the way to do that (for me anyway).
This responds to that well.
Hero, apart from a select few, no one is saying how bad the other alliances are. I do have a problem with you making yourself look much better than we are/were. [...] Furthermore, you would only have a select few tired people after 1.5w anyway, after you kickraped half your alliance.
This.
I especially like the second part as I recall you sending our HQ an angry mail about how you wouldn't kick rape anyone from your alliance. Maybe they left, if they did, whoops.
But to contradictions and hypocrisy are fun to spot.
atsanjose
01-10-2010, 01:44 PM
Hero, apart from a select few, no one is saying how bad the other alliances are. I do have a problem with you making yourself look much better than we are/were. [...] Furthermore, you would only have a select few tired people after 1.5w anyway, after you kickraped half your alliance.
This.
I especially like the second part as I recall you sending our HQ an angry mail about how you wouldn't kick rape anyone from your alliance. Maybe they left, if they did, whoops.
But to contradictions and hypocrisy are fun to spot.
as is political propaganda
Twigley
01-10-2010, 05:11 PM
For whoever said Bribe were the only ally who didnt complain when they get incs, clearly havn't read the mails we get every single time we have 4/5 people hitting them.
What kind of alliance *isn't* "ftf"? Seems like a pointless label to me.
As an outsider, this is the first post that has made any real sense to me.
Stop assuming that if a group intends to play for fun that they won't attempt to win. Those who play to win usually do so because they find winning fun. Ergo, they're playing for fun.
What kind of alliance *isn't* "ftf"? Seems like a pointless label to me.
As an outsider, this is the first post that has made any real sense to me.
Stop assuming that if a group intends to play for fun that they won't attempt to win. Those who play to win usually do so because they find winning fun. Ergo, they're playing for fun.
You're a liar Davs, stop coming in and giving your n00b opinion on everything.
Nobody who is FTF can be FTW. Your logic (as a certain person once said), is illogical. dRQ 4 DA award.
Silence, I only speak facts.
NoobCake
01-10-2010, 08:33 PM
For the record I have not kick raped anyone this round so I have no idea where those comments from Hobbe and Silence are coming from. Though I expect Silence's was based completely on what Hobbe said. You are more than welcome to confirm with anyone in my alliance if you like; or better yet, anyone that has quit/left/been kicked from the alliance. You would have to do something pretty bad to be kick raped from an alliance that I lead.
Furthermore, IoF did make a post about us having a lead... That "lead" came less than 36 hours into our initial war between each other after we had started to beat them... When it started we were nearly identical for score/land. So you are saying that as soon as someone gains an advantage in a fair and even fight they should automatically run for help... I do not blame them, it is the only reason they did not die to begin with. I mean if you can't compete you have every right to get backup. I just find it funny that people make it out like we were 50% bigger and zomg resistance!!! When in fact it was just us that were barely starting to win an even and fair fight :P
Fair play, I cannot speak for another alliance or speculate as to what they were thinking/planning/doing. So I will add, "from our/my point of view" to all of those statements haha.
Silence
01-10-2010, 10:57 PM
For the record I have not kick raped anyone this round so I have no idea where those comments from Hobbe and Silence are coming from. Though I expect Silence's was based completely on what Hobbe said.
Private Sent by: Hero Sun 12th Sep, 2010. 15:35:40 GMT
Subject:
Wasn't meant a's a direct insult tbh. Just makes me laugh that people try so much and I ways get the mail like they thought they had a chance. Yea you guys have killed the same few people a couple of times. New dads and stuff deserve some slack, if I were a douche like iof I'd have kick raped them in their sleep by now and let in many of the active a contactable people that have applied. A couple from your group e
but it is a game, and we will fight to win it on our own without running to others :)
Sun 7th Aug, year 2. Early hours New Membership Request 18th Sep 17:15
[Anonymous player] has requested to join the alliance.
Recruitment Message: '[Player X] - very active- was kick raped from apha when i went on vacation. need a place to grow back'.
Seems Hobbezak was right
The issue here is whether or not this anonymous player was telling the truth about being kick raped. Now he has no reason to lie, he could have easily just said he left, as a potential recruiter we probably would have preferred someone who had left because of a fall out with the leader rather than he was kicked because he was slacking. So I'm again speculating, but in my opinion it doesn't seem like he would be lying.
NoobCake
02-10-2010, 03:35 AM
Either that person IS lying or it was when Bruce was still leading...
As for that mail, it just shows even more how i feel about Kick-Raping people so I fail to see why you would post it :P
Davis
02-10-2010, 01:10 PM
Just to clear things up, FTF doesn't nessisarily mean "for the fun" i've always been under the impression it was
"For The Fail"
:P however this has made it quite apparent its not so i guess my original ideas were wrong.
LuckySports
02-10-2010, 01:37 PM
okay.. how about instead of FTF, we say NFTW? :P Make things "simple" and easy to understand
Factssss
Are by and large non-existent within this thread and it's predecessor.
LuckySports
03-10-2010, 05:08 AM
factssss
are by and large non-existent within this thread and it's predecessor.
trollll
:p
nobody
03-10-2010, 02:50 PM
For whoever said Bribe were the only ally who didnt complain when they get incs, clearly havn't read the mails we get every single time we have 4/5 people hitting them.
as you noted, BM moaned to you when an ally 3 times its size attacked but most importantly, no one from BM came here to publicly complain. big distinction.
LuckySports
03-10-2010, 03:23 PM
For whoever said Bribe were the only ally who didnt complain when they get incs, clearly havn't read the mails we get every single time we have 4/5 people hitting them.
as you noted, BM moaned to you when an ally 3 times its size attacked but most importantly, no one from BM came here to publicly complain. big distinction.
Complaining in-game is generally anonymous..
doing so on the forums lets people know who they need to flame.
Takes more to come on here and whine than to do so in a PM in-game :P
But both are kinda lame..
For whoever said Bribe were the only ally who didnt complain when they get incs, clearly havn't read the mails we get every single time we have 4/5 people hitting them.
as you noted, BM moaned to you when an ally 3 times its size attacked but most importantly, no one from BM came here to publicly complain. big distinction.
I counter your whine with adding rank 2 & 3 together to be OVER 9000 times bigger than rank 1. True story - I don't have any evidence or anything, but my point is valid because I said so.
Stunned: 6,860 [£385,269,000] enemies stunned. 2,066,553 [£105,517,186,900] friendlies stunned.
Distracted: 711,785,020 [£7,702,248,360,800] enemies distracted. 159,147,817 [£7,969,580,674,100] friendlies distracted.
Disabled: 500,336 [£9,369,282,400] enemies disabled.
Died: 507,228,192 [£21,390,892,324,600] enemies dead. 117,831,778 [£6,070,012,684,800] friendlies dead.
Bribed: 8,306,932 [£436,758,045,000] enemies bribed.
Converted: 2,834,662 [£45,354,592,000] enemies converted. 1,188,482 [£19,015,712,000] friendlies converted.
:2gunfire:
Twigley
04-10-2010, 04:01 PM
Lols such fail wars but fun to watch.
Also only posting 1 BR FTW!
I posted my Fav BR of course!
There were other yeah..
2tril enemies killed
2tril enemies killed
6tril friendlies lost
So on, so forth.. I think that's how it went..
Second To Some have rescinded the declaration of war against our alliance.
FOR SHAME, cap us on land. :(
Twigley
04-10-2010, 04:52 PM
Yup the whole war thing is pretty bugged and easy to manipulate.
LuckySports
05-10-2010, 02:57 AM
Stunned: 6,860 [£385,269,000] enemies stunned. 2,066,553 [£105,517,186,900] friendlies stunned.
Distracted: 711,785,020 [£7,702,248,360,800] enemies distracted. 159,147,817 [£7,969,580,674,100] friendlies distracted.
Disabled: 500,336 [£9,369,282,400] enemies disabled.
Died: 507,228,192 [£21,390,892,324,600] enemies dead. 117,831,778 [£6,070,012,684,800] friendlies dead.
Bribed: 8,306,932 [£436,758,045,000] enemies bribed.
Converted: 2,834,662 [£45,354,592,000] enemies converted. 1,188,482 [£19,015,712,000] friendlies converted.
:2gunfire:
I tried to post that, but I couldn't figure out the stupid colors.. :( Doesn't work like in-game tags in politics, and I don't have the patience to look it up anymore.. :P
Zaheen
05-10-2010, 10:33 AM
For whoever said Bribe were the only ally who didnt complain when they get incs, clearly havn't read the mails we get every single time we have 4/5 people hitting them.
as you noted, BM moaned to you when an ally 3 times its size attacked but most importantly, no one from BM came here to publicly complain. big distinction.
Good point Twigley, FTF my ass. Instead they start throwing random racial abuse to a solo player who sending them a few stealth incs. That's 10x worse than complaining as an alliance.
Not to mention the amount of Thug/Striker and whatever other routes they have in their alliance. I did give them the biggest good luck shout at the start of the round, and I do think that themed alliances (things like that), would do this game a LOT of good, that's if the alliance sticks to it!
An alliance comlpaining is nothing more than a cry for mercy, and should be heard in a game like this. I let off a few war cries of my own beacuse I didn't want my alliance to die the way it did. Nobody answered until my alliance was dead. Yes we were FTF, but what happened to my alliance was not fun. Justice has been made, and I left this round with a smile.
_____
I know I didn't do much this round - I did what I could with the tools given to me, I loved mixing and stirring up things. I have always been biased towards Bruce/Hero's alliance because before the round started they were the nicest players, gave me the most respect, and took an early lead by themselves. So from what I saw they deserved to win - and I think they would make the round more fun than any of the other FTW alliances (Ogluk/Dill), even if half their players are FTF the leadership is FTW so that's what the alliance is ^ ^
Anyway back to the real world!
lol LuckySports, it's right above where you type. Just highlight the text you want colored and click the A. (Assuming you have the color selected already.)
LuckySports
06-10-2010, 04:53 AM
lol LuckySports, it's right above where you type. Just highlight the text you want colored and click the A. (Assuming you have the color selected already.)
thankx for the tip! but I don't seem to have that.. am I just blind?
Twigley
06-10-2010, 12:00 PM
nn CK
It has complete relevence to s2s, my alliance who went into sleep, being involved in the outcome of this competition. If you wanna delete it, pm me why you are deleting (Twice) it or i'll keep reposting.
Hobbezak
06-10-2010, 12:10 PM
nn CK
It has complete relevence to s2s, my alliance who went into sleep, being involved in the outcome of this competition. If you wanna delete it, pm me why you are deleting (Twice) it or i'll keep reposting.
lolol sleepmode is for pansies!!!
Twigley
06-10-2010, 12:13 PM
nn CK
It has complete relevence to s2s, my alliance who went into sleep, being involved in the outcome of this competition. If you wanna delete it, pm me why you are deleting (Twice) it or i'll keep reposting.
lolol sleepmode is for pansies!!!
inorite?
Dimitar
06-10-2010, 12:42 PM
did someone really delete my post thinking Bacon is less important to this thread than "nn CK" ? :O
Someone deleted a few posts.. kinda strange.
Hobbezak
06-10-2010, 01:13 PM
nn CK
It has complete relevence to s2s, my alliance who went into sleep, being involved in the outcome of this competition. If you wanna delete it, pm me why you are deleting (Twice) it or i'll keep reposting.
lolol sleepmode is for pansies!!!
inorite?
Btw, care to share your motives? Wouldn't mind some drama llama on the forums!
The motives boil down to this very important saying.. "Mess with the bull, you get the horns." They messed with the bull and they're trying to avoid the horns.
The motives boil down to this very important saying.. "Mess with the bull, you get the horns." They messed with the bull and they're trying to avoid the horns.
Don't talk bollocks, you both did the same to us.
POWABLOCK.
POWABLOCK.
POWACOCK.
The motives boil down to this very important saying.. "Mess with the bull, you get the horns." They messed with the bull and they're trying to avoid the horns.
Don't talk bollocks, you both did the same to us.
POWABLOCK.
POWABLOCK.
POWACOCK.
What are you on about? We're talking about S2S mass sleepmode.
The motives boil down to this very important saying.. "Mess with the bull, you get the horns." They messed with the bull and they're trying to avoid the horns.
Don't talk bollocks, you both did the same to us.
POWABLOCK.
POWABLOCK.
POWACOCK.
What are you on about? We're talking about S2S mass sleepmode.
Well so am I. I'm pretty sure Twiglet's defences > all alliances 1v1
Apparently you tipped the scales again. HAVE YOU NO SHAME.
Still not sure what you're talking about.
Still not sure what you're talking about.
Lolk.
Twigley
06-10-2010, 03:03 PM
Internal alliance problems in regards to attitude rather than the actual defence.
The "bull" as Ryu said, was pretty poor for the only FTW ally, i have to say :P
But yeah, can't really fight the only real FTW ally this round with my FTF ally who had gone dellusional for a day :P
Constant attacking for 1/2/3/Eta 1/2/3/4/5 incs when i have 5-6 members who had quit a few days ago, when 3 members are in sleepmode due to RL and 3 others are UC all day, are not the most fun to defend. Nor do i want my alliance to be involved in the fail of a round so far for rank 1 lol.
Although it is frustrating seeing this and thinking any of the past allies ive been in ftw would be crushing all this nonsense this round! :P
<3 you fans.
Alcibiades
06-10-2010, 03:12 PM
Internal alliance problems in regards to attitude rather than the actual defence.
The "bull" as Ryu said, was pretty poor for the only FTW ally, i have to say :P
But yeah, can't really fight the only real FTW ally this round with my FTF ally who had gone dellusional for a day :P
Constant attacking for 1/2/3/Eta 1/2/3/4/5 incs when i have 5-6 members who had quit a few days ago, when 3 members are in sleepmode due to RL and 3 others are UC all day, are not the most fun to defend. Nor do i want my alliance to be involved in the fail of a round so far for rank 1 lol.
Although it is frustrating seeing this and thinking any of the past allies ive been in ftw would be crushing all this nonsense this round! :P
<3 you fans.
Now you know exactly how dRQ felt when we hit mass sleep. Exhausted and delusional :P
Shouldn't have joined resistance if you didn't want us to teach you a lesson. Or rather, be successful in the resistance?
Twigley
06-10-2010, 03:55 PM
Cool story bro but you managed to fend off god awfully organised attacks for a day which were organised by people who admit they are not good at attacking and then managed to steal acres from an alliance that purposefully were not disturbing people IRL, letting your bigger guys land even tho we had mass staff home.
I never wanted my alliance to join in with the fail of rank 1 this round, but their inexperience and general wanting to have fun and not being able to do so due to the awful situation the round had become, meant that they went and did it.
From start to now the politics and the level of attacking from ALL the alliances are a shadow of even 5 rounds ago, never mind 10,15,20. It's pretty pointless when i see bragging on Forums, IRC and ingame mails to me saying how i was taught a lesson. I was against getting involved in all of this because i knew this would be the outcome. You havn't taught any lesson to me, i predicted the lessons before you did ;) I stayed out of the whole thing because i basically just dont have the time to beat you anymore.
Although i guess alot of the people who have a chance to win this round due to the lack of competition and lack of other good alliances may not of won a round before so it's exciting times for them! :D Always nice when some newer players get to see what its like to win, however its done!
I'm not gonna argue, and I don't want to be an asshole.
Sorry for attacking you guys after you tried to 2v1 us and gave us incoming all day, truly sorry for your losses.
Twigley
06-10-2010, 04:10 PM
Why are you being sarcastic now?
Nobody has even flamed you for attacking us?
Why even say that?
You ok Ryu?
I knew youd attack us and nobody has a problem with it in this thread, IRC or ingame.
Why even make that comment?
It doesn't make sense as a reply.
Would you like some lemonade?
http://tipdeck.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Home-made-Lemonade-Recipe.jpg
I'm not gonna argue, and I don't want to be an asshole.
Sorry for attacking you guys after you tried to 2v1 us and gave us incoming all day, truly sorry for your losses.
and the fact that you had a spy in our ally (ignit/jakeswake) makes us even i suppose right?
your alliance has 2 people i would never play with ever again being Jakeswake and Recon.... your alliance cant play w/o spies or getting into our alliance channel disguised as Twigley and getting myself and Davis to suicide on you.... at least our ally just plays politically while yours actually plays dishonorable
IceOfFire
06-10-2010, 09:05 PM
It also needs Recon land farming off his real life mate for the whole round...
No wait, it's got that
tobapopalos
07-10-2010, 03:14 AM
Go go gadget Twigley!
I'm still backing him to win the round.
lol who got in your alliance channel, and why did you allow them to?
Recon
07-10-2010, 02:32 PM
I'm not gonna argue, and I don't want to be an asshole.
Sorry for attacking you guys after you tried to 2v1 us and gave us incoming all day, truly sorry for your losses.
and the fact that you had a spy in our ally (ignit/jakeswake) makes us even i suppose right?
your alliance has 2 people i would never play with ever again being Jakeswake and Recon.... your alliance cant play w/o spies or getting into our alliance channel disguised as Twigley and getting myself and Davis to suicide on you.... at least our ally just plays politically while yours actually plays dishonorable
hehe i'm really glad you wont play with me again, you and iof are so funny, so much drama. I personally thought that was funny when you killed yourself, laughed for a hour straight lol. Honor? whats that? theres honor in this game, i thought it was a all our war game, anything goes. sorry if your not that smart to think of great ideas like that lol
Koeniej
07-10-2010, 03:11 PM
I'm not gonna argue, and I don't want to be an asshole.
Sorry for attacking you guys after you tried to 2v1 us and gave us incoming all day, truly sorry for your losses.
and the fact that you had a spy in our ally (ignit/jakeswake) makes us even i suppose right?
your alliance has 2 people i would never play with ever again being Jakeswake and Recon.... your alliance cant play w/o spies or getting into our alliance channel disguised as Twigley and getting myself and Davis to suicide on you.... at least our ally just plays politically while yours actually plays dishonorable
Please dont flame 'our alliance' like that when you only have a problem with 2 players! You probably dont even know half of the players in there or how they play. Also when you are attacking/defending and someone in your alliance tells you they have intel and know where to stay and where not.. what do you expect us to do? recall attacks/defence where you can pwn the enemy because its 'dishonorable'? hah! like you would do that
All I read is faggotry in the extreme. Twiglet knew like we did what was coming, let your fail-politics and explanations to continue, you're entertaining me.
Davis
07-10-2010, 03:41 PM
I don't think I can deny that I would use said info to my advantage if it was given to me, however given the circumstances I would assume it was asked for, I mean he hadn't spied on us for quite some time, then his friend joins your alliance, and he becomes less active, less helpful, and then when we hit sleep he joins your alliance, I'm assuming there was some sort of agreement there, not him simply giving out info. Something along the lines of, "tell us where the reals/fakes are and we will let you join our alliance after we kill the alliance that has protected you countless nights on end all round, from none other than us."
Also I simply found it pathetic, that you, the Almighty, any you might not appear so cocky on the forums but from talking to your leader and co leader and other high up memebers that you guys are quite the egotistical morons. After you guys were told by one of our members when we would be hitting you guys, so obviously you knew to be ready to have everyone online, and our IRC chan's password where you posed as our leader (yes it was blatently obvious it was you Recon, however due to having a **** version of IRC I dont get to see who joins and who leaves, and I dont see the info like "Twig has joined #xxxxx (twig.eurofag.net)" and you suicided one of our biggest members on you guys. While that is mainly our fault for being so naive it shows you feared us and had to use cheap tactics yet again to assure you guys the win. And to go back to my original paragraph you then took things ever further by having one of our members spy, **** up defense, and generally **** over our entire alliance. And then you gloat to me in PM and on these forums about OMG WE TOOK DOWN THE GLORIOUS 2v1! Omg we raped Twigley we so good 1111!!!11!... If you were "so good" you surely wouldn't have had to use so nasty and unfair tactics. Just goes to show you guys dont have the skill to get rank 1 without said tactics, have fun with your tainted win.
Recon
07-10-2010, 03:56 PM
tbf, you should have listened to twiggs, he didnt want to 2v1, lesson learnt. we had a war going with Res for some time b4 you all had to butt in and attempt to go for the win (which i have no idea how you where gonna manage getting rank 1 even IF we fell)
<Iamsmart> ***8211;noun
<Iamsmart> 7.
<Iamsmart> a homosexual person, esp. a male.
<Ryu-> I'm gay as hell.
Jerk! Don't share our private messages.
For the record Davis.. I can easily get all 20 members online at any time.
bluehen55
07-10-2010, 05:37 PM
wow rank 1 spying on rank 3. almost as lame as when you spied on the resistance last round. almost, but not quite.
deathscythe
07-10-2010, 05:56 PM
For the record Davis.. I can easily get all 20 members online at any time.
WAITAMINUTE that wasn't part of our deal
Hobbezak
07-10-2010, 06:06 PM
For the record Davis.. I can easily get all 20 members online at any time.
They are account sharing! :P
Ogluk
07-10-2010, 07:06 PM
wow rank 1 spying on rank 3. almost as lame as when you spied on the resistance last round. almost, but not quite.
this is Recon we're on about, his nick is about scouting things out, and he has a history of it, why is anyone surprised? :P
tobapopalos
07-10-2010, 08:02 PM
Also when you are attacking/defending and someone in your alliance tells you they have intel and know where to stay and where not.. what do you expect us to do? recall attacks/defence where you can pwn the enemy because its 'dishonorable'? hah! like you would do that
I think quite a few people would. Don't think everyone else is as big a scumbag as you are.
Twigley
07-10-2010, 08:28 PM
W/e I:
- don't care if people had to use my IRC nick to join our channel (Which only had a pass on which was given out by ANOTHER guy because im not taking this round as FTW or else it would be invite)
- don't care if you had to use a spy on us to take down an alliance much smaller in troops than you.
But just don't brag about stopping a badly planned 2 v 1 from two Not for the win alliances, when being the only proper ftw ally, when you knew before hand it was going to happen. And please don't say you are honourable anymore (Like hero was mailing me through the round) because quite clearly you are not.
But yeah, like i said. I don't care if you do it, I havn't been an angel in the past, just don't gloss over it and know that it will stick besides the win that thats how it was got.
I look forward to the rest of the round, and rounds to come. xxx
Koeniej
08-10-2010, 12:27 AM
Also when you are attacking/defending and someone in your alliance tells you they have intel and know where to stay and where not.. what do you expect us to do? recall attacks/defence where you can pwn the enemy because its 'dishonorable'? hah! like you would do that
I think quite a few people would. Don't think everyone else is as big a scumbag as you are.
well you might see me as a scumbag.. im not. When you are defending an ally mate, and someone in your alliance says: i know they are real on the target you are defending and you have enought to kill them.. nobody will say: nahhhh im recalling my defense and im letting my ally mate die just because this intel was gained by a spy in the other alliance. i cant believe that. And if you will.. okay i respect that but this is as far as i ever went with using intel or other 'dishonorable' tactics in this game so i dont see myself as a 'scumbag' at all, if anyone has a reason to prove i am please tell me :)
Blahhhhhhh. Tell you what would be really fun:
Everyone attacking Aphall just so an alliance not FTW wins over an alliance that has bragged and low-blowed all round. Perfect moral round end.
You should all just hit delete - I mean, that's obviously the fairest conclusion.
tobapopalos
08-10-2010, 01:19 AM
Also when you are attacking/defending and someone in your alliance tells you they have intel and know where to stay and where not.. what do you expect us to do? recall attacks/defence where you can pwn the enemy because its 'dishonorable'? hah! like you would do that
I think quite a few people would. Don't think everyone else is as big a scumbag as you are.
well you might see me as a scumbag.. im not. When you are defending an ally mate, and someone in your alliance says: i know they are real on the target you are defending and you have enought to kill them.. nobody will say: nahhhh im recalling my defense and im letting my ally mate die just because this intel was gained by a spy in the other alliance. i cant believe that. And if you will.. okay i respect that but this is as far as i ever went with using intel or other 'dishonorable' tactics in this game so i dont see myself as a 'scumbag' at all, if anyone has a reason to prove i am please tell me :)
If it was on defence then I wouldn't let an allymate die for it, but on an attack I'd just recall. And I'd ask how we know where they are real, and if told it was a spy I'd probably go apeshit and leave the alliance, regardless of whether it was defence/attack. I don't want to be associated with that sort of asshattery.
Davis
08-10-2010, 03:11 AM
If it was on defence then I wouldn't let an allymate die for it, but on an attack I'd just recall. And I'd ask how we know where they are real, and if told it was a spy I'd probably go apeshit and leave the alliance, regardless of whether it was defence/attack. I don't want to be associated with that sort of asshattery.
I can vouch for this, toby doesn't put up with anything dishonorable.
Koeniej
08-10-2010, 05:12 AM
If it was on defence then I wouldn't let an allymate die for it, but on an attack I'd just recall. And I'd ask how we know where they are real, and if told it was a spy I'd probably go apeshit and leave the alliance, regardless of whether it was defence/attack. I don't want to be associated with that sort of asshattery.
I can vouch for this, toby doesn't put up with anything dishonorable.
Well Toby is probably one of the few i actually believe when he says that lol
Blahhhhhhh. Tell you what would be really fun:
Everyone attacking Aphall just so an alliance not FTW wins over an alliance that has bragged and low-blowed all round. Perfect moral round end.
You should all just hit delete - I mean, that's obviously the fairest conclusion.
It's already over sweetheart.
TheSharpOne
09-10-2010, 02:58 PM
Probably shouldn't have kicked and attacked me
Twigley
09-10-2010, 03:03 PM
You were kicked because you kept dying every night.
You were attacked because people didn't listen to me saying not to attack you.
But it's in the past, i hold no grudge.
We can finally start enjoying the round and not be involved in this debaucle at the top.
TheSharpOne
09-10-2010, 03:19 PM
I died twice which is surprising considering how often I got RPG rushed at silly hours of the morning.
Davis shouldn't have attacked me and shouldn't have needed to be told not to either, it's just the decent thing to do. That's why you got your irc channel given out, I'm just surprised you were actually stupid enough not to change the password straight away.
Twigley
09-10-2010, 04:14 PM
I wasn't online and don't really care about being spied on, aslong as people remember they spied and it sticks with them.
Iamsmart
09-10-2010, 04:16 PM
disband
I died twice which is surprising considering how often I got RPG rushed at silly hours of the morning.
Davis shouldn't have attacked me and shouldn't have needed to be told not to either, it's just the decent thing to do. That's why you got your irc channel given out, I'm just surprised you were actually stupid enough not to change the password straight away.
dude you sucked. you had no phone #, only an email address and you died often when RPG rushed. i was saying we should kick you way before you were kicked. so i'd thank twig if i were you, for keeping you so long considering how useless you were.
TheSharpOne
09-10-2010, 05:10 PM
My email address works like an SMS text message, like a lot of people in the alliance.
I died twice.
I think I did my fair share of defending
Even if all that weren't true as far as I was aware we were playing for fun.
Davis
09-10-2010, 05:21 PM
well your lack of presense wasn't "fun" and incase you didn't notice over 3/4 of the ally voted on going FTW you included so dont use "we were FTF" as a excuse nub.
TheSharpOne
09-10-2010, 05:49 PM
Nah you voted to play "FTW" about 4 days before you kicked me. I don't even know why I'm bothering to reply in all honesty. You attacked me after I got kicked and you got what you deserved. The end.
Twigley
09-10-2010, 06:23 PM
You giving away info wasn't the cause of us deciding to die. There was a space of about 4/5 days, lol.
Anyway this isn't the thread to discuss it.
Move on.
Iamsmart
09-10-2010, 10:42 PM
twigley disbanded asphyxia though, don't forget TSO.
keep up the good fight
I heard Apha was disbanding.
You giving away info wasn't the cause of us deciding to die. There was a space of about 4/5 days, lol.
Anyway this isn't the thread to discuss it.
Move on.
I heard that - Keep it in-game, it has nothing to do with the politics of entire alliances.
Now Res can be bashed all the time :>
LuckySports
11-10-2010, 04:26 AM
they've been trying.. :P If they didn't have twice our land, they'd be losing too..
they've been trying.. :P If they didn't have twice our land, they'd be losing too..
LIES! Super proooo
they've been trying.. :P If they didn't have twice our land, they'd be losing too..
That's like me saying "if dRQ were never bashed, we'd be no1".
You didn't work as hard as they did, so they're beating you. Not being funny, just saying it as it is.
Angela
11-10-2010, 02:58 PM
they've been trying.. :P If they didn't have twice our land, they'd be losing too..
That's like me saying "if dRQ were never bashed, we'd be no1".
You didn't work as hard as they did, so they're beating you. Not being funny, just saying it as it is.
True we didn't work as hard as they did, but then we didn't want to win either.
LuckySports
11-10-2010, 05:19 PM
they've been trying.. :P If they didn't have twice our land, they'd be losing too..
That's like me saying "if dRQ were never bashed, we'd be no1".
You didn't work as hard as they did, so they're beating you. Not being funny, just saying it as it is.
True we didn't work as hard as they did, but then we didn't want to win either.
and at least we aren't rolling over and dying.. lol.. We are probably the least active of the top alliances this round, and we have put up the most fight on defense. Sad really
they've been trying.. :P If they didn't have twice our land, they'd be losing too..
That's like me saying "if dRQ were never bashed, we'd be no1".
You didn't work as hard as they did, so they're beating you. Not being funny, just saying it as it is.
True we didn't work as hard as they did, but then we didn't want to win either.
and at least we aren't rolling over and dying.. lol.. We are probably the least active of the top alliances this round, and we have put up the most fight on defense. Sad really
Blowing the figurative trumpet, much?
Bare with me whilst I quietly laugh to myself.
LuckySports
11-10-2010, 08:08 PM
not my fault you gave up, move on with the round and try to have some fun. this has been the most fun I've had in a round in a long time and I'm Always defending..
not my fault you gave up, move on with the round and try to have some fun. this has been the most fun I've had in a round in a long time and I'm Always defending..
Please understand that I'm perfectly happy bobbing along doing what I want to do, but also understand you've not been put in anywhere near as much pressure so far this entire round than we had within two weeks. :>
LuckySports
11-10-2010, 08:15 PM
not my fault you gave up, move on with the round and try to have some fun. this has been the most fun I've had in a round in a long time and I'm Always defending..
Please understand that I'm perfectly happy bobbing along doing what I want to do, but also understand you've not been put in anywhere near as much pressure so far this entire round than we had within two weeks. :>
constant incoming from an alliance twice our size not enough pressure? :P We just handle it well ^_^ Last round was good practice for me.
Alcibiades
11-10-2010, 10:30 PM
not my fault you gave up, move on with the round and try to have some fun. this has been the most fun I've had in a round in a long time and I'm Always defending..
Please understand that I'm perfectly happy bobbing along doing what I want to do, but also understand you've not been put in anywhere near as much pressure so far this entire round than we had within two weeks. :>
constant incoming from an alliance twice our size not enough pressure? :P We just handle it well ^_^ Last round was good practice for me.
I mean no disrespect to Res here. The following is merely my opinion and should be read as such.
How about constant incoming for a few weeks straight from 1, then 2 alliances, then the whole game? It's a little different being targeted by one alliance, and one alliance only. Especially one which has reasonably poor attacking skills. Being rank 2, defending against rank 1 is one of the easiest jobs in this entire game. Trust me, I've been there more rounds than not; and it's considerably easier defending against rank 1 without outside interference than it is being subject to 2v1 and then scavengers.
I believe you're under pressure, rank 2 always is when rank 1 has "already won" but to compare pressure from different times of the round is difficult. I would say dRQ has endured more; but I'm not a Res member, so I'm not in a position to judge your incoming, only to judge mine. At the height of our inc, and your inc, I would be inclined to say dRQ had more incoming to deal with, on a larger scale, for a longer period of time than Res, but again, I can't guarantee that, nor can I prove it. Simply an opinion ;)
I would say both dRQ and Res did good jobs in their defending. Res simply has the advantage of being under attack by only one alliance at a time, which, imo, leads to a serious difference in amount of "pressure" from which you are suffering.
timthetyrant
11-10-2010, 11:06 PM
and at least we aren't rolling over and dying.. lol.. We are probably the least active of the top alliances this round, and we have put up the most fight on defense. Sad really
and the irony is that even though its been like 2-3 weeks since RQ bowed out, RQ has still done the most damage to aphalla, and that was back when killing 2 tril was a major blow. Sad really
LuckySports
12-10-2010, 01:10 AM
and at least we aren't rolling over and dying.. lol.. We are probably the least active of the top alliances this round, and we have put up the most fight on defense. Sad really
and the irony is that even though its been like 2-3 weeks since RQ bowed out, RQ has still done the most damage to aphalla, and that was back when killing 2 tril was a major blow. Sad really
thats only offensive stats - WE've said the entire round we aren't an offensive ally :P If it showed defensive stats, it'd be a whole different story
As far as pressure - DRQ didn't see real incoming till after they had already given up.. even if people are going to be UC for the entire weekend (we had at least 5 people ourselves this past weekend) its really no reason for everyone to hit sleep..
and ofc at that point, everyone and their mother is going to see easy land when they come out of a sleep, it would take an extremely well organized alliance to time sleep well enough for everyone to coem out at the same time, and be able to defend themselves right away..
You were out of it as soon as the decision to sleep was made
Alcibiades
12-10-2010, 01:41 AM
You are in no position to judge when we did or did not get real incoming LS. You aren't in dRQ and never have been. I admit we weren't going to win as of sleepmode, but that didn't change the pressure we were under, nor is that relevant to our current discussion. You are not a member of our ally, and consequently you know nothing.
I would continue this argument but given your seeming inability to grasp basic truths, I can't be bothered.
As for defensive stats, I think we would be nigh on equivalent. Assuming we took them from similar times in our defensive moments.
tobapopalos
12-10-2010, 02:23 AM
thats only offensive stats - WE've said the entire round we aren't an offensive ally :P If it showed defensive stats, it'd be a whole different story
That's a poor argument. If it showed defensive stats as well I'm sure RQ would have plenty of damage done on apha as well. It just means they've been attacking and defending, whereas you've just been defending.
LuckySports
12-10-2010, 03:22 AM
thats only offensive stats - WE've said the entire round we aren't an offensive ally :P If it showed defensive stats, it'd be a whole different story
That's a poor argument. If it showed defensive stats as well I'm sure RQ would have plenty of damage done on apha as well. It just means they've been attacking and defending, whereas you've just been defending.
and Defending is what we do. You can argue all day, but its not going to change anything. I don't know why its such a hard concept to grasp. We are not an offensive alliance in any means, most of us don't bother attacking much, and the few of us that do like to get out on attacks are usually busy defending mass-attacks, or countering rushes, or are just too big to have any targets..
Also, not being FTW, theres no requirement to get on for major attacks, so seeing more than 11-12 people online to send an attack, that will stick around, is rare.
Seeing 18+ people online to send defense, thats a different story :P
Alcibiades
12-10-2010, 03:33 AM
I dont think anyone is disputing the fact you're a defensive alliance. My issue is the following: "Where does you being a defensive alliance equate you being under more pressure than dRQ?" From my ID this round, I would disagree but I'd be happy to see your evidence supporting your assertion. Like I said earlier, i've not been in Res all round but my memory of dRQ incoming was rather significant, and you hadn't really suffered anything until we were out of the picture, and until aphalla had a reasonable land lead. 1 versus 1 does not equal 2v1 + gangbanged by everyone and their mother who senses a dying alliance. That is, of course, merely one example of the pressure and stress we were under; and it is only the last phase of pressure at that. Ever since dRQ attacked Aphalla, we were under pressure. Res did dick all until we were dying with a few exceptions. All you did was mass lower allies, steal land, and join 2 resistance attacks.
I don't mean to belittle your achievements this round, being a great defensive alliance is lovely, but it simply isn't in the same scale as what dRQ underwent this round.
Hobbezak
12-10-2010, 06:47 AM
As far as pressure - DRQ didn't see real incoming till after they had already given up.. even if people are going to be UC for the entire weekend (we had at least 5 people ourselves this past weekend) its really no reason for everyone to hit sleep..
Lol?
1. We had been warring with rank 1 for 1.5w. We had been on the receiving end, you had been getting the easy ride. Period. This required activity and contactibility. We had set LT's for attacks, which sometimes required people to come online to send on attacks etc, something you obviously didn't/don't.
2. We hit sleep after a day and night (or more, can't remember exactly) of 2v1, ON TOP of being 1v1'd for about 2 weeks BY A LARGER ALLIANCE. We didn't "give up" and then received incoming, you think we hit sleep because we're all pansies and got inc from rank 1? Before we hit sleep, we were pushed from rank 1 to 3, and still received 2v1 treatment. And even that wasn't the reason. It has been explained multiple times, but I'll do it one more time: Our nightcover had been under large pressure because:
a) We had been 1v1'ing for 1.5 weeks, including them coming online to send attacks
b) Then being 2v1'd, which again required out already stretched nightcover to come online even during the day to help out, resulting in them being kind of stretched.
Some of them ASKED to organise a sleepmode session, as they wanted a rest, and since a few people were going UC during the weekend, it seemed like we could kill 2 birds with one stone
So basically, the difference between you and us, is:
1. We sent attacks, you don't. Discuss all you like, but that's added pressure on an alliance.
2. We had been fighting 1v1, where we didn't end up being 50% of their size until a third ally hit on us (disregarding the period before we 2v1'd them to even the odds :p).
3. We only caved in to the pressure when we got 2v1'd for at least a day with no light at the end of the tunnel.
Summarising: Res got the easy ride throughout the round (as alci said (and I'm sure plenty people in your alliance will acknowledge this), defending 1v1, even against 200%, is a damn lot easier than being 2v1'd), Apha are the deserved winners of this round as they overcame a 2v1 and did attacks (even though the KR'd people ;)), and dRQ tried but failed for various reason, again, as explained earlier in this thread or in the previous thread.
Angela
12-10-2010, 06:47 AM
You are in no position to judge when we did or did not get real incoming LS. You aren't in dRQ and never have been. I admit we weren't going to win as of sleepmode, but that didn't change the pressure we were under, nor is that relevant to our current discussion. You are not a member of our ally, and consequently you know nothing.
I would continue this argument but given your seeming inability to grasp basic truths, I can't be bothered.
As for defensive stats, I think we would be nigh on equivalent. Assuming we took them from similar times in our defensive moments.
Maybe the above should also apply to Dax as well he isn't in res and blah blah you get my point, everyone seems to know what is going on in res and unless your in there you have no clue. (even if you are in there some still might not have a clue, meaning me here :D), reading further posts, maybe it should also apply to you as well.
Hobbezak
12-10-2010, 06:57 AM
You are in no position to judge when we did or did not get real incoming LS. You aren't in dRQ and never have been. I admit we weren't going to win as of sleepmode, but that didn't change the pressure we were under, nor is that relevant to our current discussion. You are not a member of our ally, and consequently you know nothing.
I would continue this argument but given your seeming inability to grasp basic truths, I can't be bothered.
As for defensive stats, I think we would be nigh on equivalent. Assuming we took them from similar times in our defensive moments.
Maybe the above should also apply to Dax as well he isn't in res and blah blah you get my point, everyone seems to know what is going on in res and unless your in there you have no clue. (even if you are in there some still might not have a clue, meaning me here :D), reading further posts, maybe it should also apply to you as well.
Dax wasn't questioning any motives you had, just stating his opinion based on an observation.
LS was making claims on our motives on why we hit sleep ("bla bla bla is no reason to hit sleepmode"), which is obviously ridiculous as he wasn't in our alliance so has no idea on why we hit sleepmode, apart from the reasoning we give in here.
LuckySports
12-10-2010, 01:07 PM
You are in no position to judge when we did or did not get real incoming LS. You aren't in dRQ and never have been. I admit we weren't going to win as of sleepmode, but that didn't change the pressure we were under, nor is that relevant to our current discussion. You are not a member of our ally, and consequently you know nothing.
I would continue this argument but given your seeming inability to grasp basic truths, I can't be bothered.
As for defensive stats, I think we would be nigh on equivalent. Assuming we took them from similar times in our defensive moments.
Maybe the above should also apply to Dax as well he isn't in res and blah blah you get my point, everyone seems to know what is going on in res and unless your in there you have no clue. (even if you are in there some still might not have a clue, meaning me here :D), reading further posts, maybe it should also apply to you as well.
Dax wasn't questioning any motives you had, just stating his opinion based on an observation.
LS was making claims on our motives on why we hit sleep ("bla bla bla is no reason to hit sleepmode"), which is obviously ridiculous as he wasn't in our alliance so has no idea on why we hit sleepmode, apart from the reasoning we give in here.
Those were motives stated by your alliance :P Besides, there is NO good reason for an entire alliance to hit sleep for 3 days. Perioid..
2v1? Incase you forget, the 2nd alliance in that 2v1 was Res, and we sent all of 3 attacks, and that was in 2 days. If you can't handle 1 1/2 attack a day, even against those odds... I rest my case.
Res only stepped in to even the odds and keep your war going for a while longer, it was obvious Alpha were about to be beaten.. Much like we did against Alpha at the start.. The difference is, they didn't give (as much as it pains me to give them any sort of compliment)
The simple truth is, you gave up without a fight. You can use all the excuses in the world, but it won't change that damning bit of fact.
Much better to fight it out, no matter the odds.. I will never understand why people wimp out so quickly in this game. The new players at least show some promise, most of them understand the concept of rebuilding.
EDIT:
Oh.. and Hai Angela! ^_^
tobapopalos
12-10-2010, 03:16 PM
The new players at least show some promise, most of them understand the concept of rebuilding.
^_^
Yeah, I guess that is why we have such a healthy flood of new players in this game. Long live the playerbase.
InSoMnIaC20
12-10-2010, 04:48 PM
Long live le sarcasm
IceOfFire
12-10-2010, 04:58 PM
Toby FTW
LuckySports
12-10-2010, 08:31 PM
The new players at least show some promise, most of them understand the concept of rebuilding.
^_^
Yeah, I guess that is why we have such a healthy flood of new players in this game. Long live the playerbase.
we don't have many news players because rebuilding from scratch everyday gets old..
Hobbezak
12-10-2010, 08:58 PM
Those were motives stated by your alliance :P Besides, there is NO good reason for an entire alliance to hit sleep for 3 days. Perioid..
2v1? Incase you forget, the 2nd alliance in that 2v1 was Res, and we sent all of 3 attacks, and that was in 2 days. If you can't handle 1 1/2 attack a day, even against those odds... I rest my case.
Res only stepped in to even the odds and keep your war going for a while longer, it was obvious Alpha were about to be beaten.. Much like we did against Alpha at the start.. The difference is, they didn't give (as much as it pains me to give them any sort of compliment)
The simple truth is, you gave up without a fight. You can use all the excuses in the world, but it won't change that damning bit of fact.
Much better to fight it out, no matter the odds.. I will never understand why people wimp out so quickly in this game. The new players at least show some promise, most of them understand the concept of rebuilding.
EDIT:
Oh.. and Hai Angela! ^_^
I'm sorry, but do you know how to read?
1. As I said (in about EVERY post I made on this), we had been warring for 1.5w prior to being 2v1'd. This means some people were already stretched thin, and instead of being selfish gits hitting sleep on their own and leaving everyone else hanging during understaffed times, they kept going for the team. So when they ask for an alliance sleepmode, I think neither your nor I should condemn that.
2. One and half attack a day... Perhaps the concept of 2v1 isn't entirely clear to you, not being 2v1'd yourself this round, but in general, it means you are attacked by 2 alliances. The difference here to receiving the inc you do, is that you get MORE incoming. 1.5 attacks a day turns into at least 3 per day, instead of 1.5 attacks which are larger. This is why being 2v1'd is harder, and why your argument is invalid.
3. Again, as I've said 2000 times already, they kicked(/raped) half of their alliance. It's obvious that they weren't stretched as thin as we were. But yeah, respect to the few people there who kept going.
4. Another reason why comparing apha to us, is silly, and I'm quite sure I've said this multiple times as well, is the concept of timing. They got 2v1'd when they were larger, on maybe 3 attacks, then got 1v1'd by an alliance of equal score. We had been warring for 1.5 weeks, THEN got 2v1'd, even when the scores were pretty much equal.
5. "You gave up without a fight". Giving up without a fight, but still doing more damage to Apha than Res. Talk about a non-fight there then.
Angela
12-10-2010, 09:27 PM
im only going to comment on #5 as been stated numerous times res is more defensive than attacking alliance so yes you did more damage to them but you was also at one point playing to win (im sure i read that somewhere probably in this thread?).
oh and hey lucky ;)
ps sorry if im showing my ignorance but i don't care enough to take much notice as to what is going on only reading the forums as im bored :D
Ogluk
12-10-2010, 10:05 PM
We were more playing to stop Bruce from getting a win as a leader, in essence, as Hero did end up in charge of Apha, we achieved that goal, Apha fought back strong and fully deserve their win, even if there was less than scrupulous tactics involved, alls fair in love and war etc etc.
CFalcon
12-10-2010, 11:46 PM
im only going to comment on #5 as been stated numerous times res is more defensive than attacking alliance so yes you did more damage to them but you was also at one point playing to win (im sure i read that somewhere probably in this thread?).
Really addressed to LS, but your post illustrates it better Angela.
Yes, you were a defensive alliance, and we were more of an offensive alliance. The point several people have tried to make is that we didn't "give up without a fight", it's just that our fight had been on the offensive rather than the defensive. Just because you're a defensive alliance doesn't allow you to negate all the offensive work we did when comparing pressure/speed of collapse/burnout.
This whole thread is jokes anyway. It's obvious to everyone that:
Aphal were by far the most committed alliance as evidenced by their early lead and fast rebuild after getting resisted, and they deserve rank 1 more than any other alliance this round.
Res have been a solid steady alliance, which have done well to maintain a consistent good rank despite constant incoming (albeit not as severe as RQ and Aphal's).
RQ were the best offensive alliance while they were trying, but burnt themselves out and didn't have the commitment to maintain top level play for the 3+ weeks required this round.
Anything beyond this assessment is really just ego polishing.
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Also, this made me lol:
Also, not being FTW, theres no requirement to get on for major attacks, so seeing more than 11-12 people online to send an attack, that will stick around, is rare.
Seeing 18+ people online to send defense, thats a different story :P
There's nothing essentially different between defence and offence. You can't label us as FTW if we have lots of people on for attacks, and label yourselves as not-FTW if you have lots of people on for defence. What you've done there is taken reason and given it several hard smacks round the face while the logic-fail police have been standing watching. And now they're going to take you away.
I can swap RQ with Res and offensive with defensive in all of your posts referring to ftw/ftw and offensive/defensive and they stay both logical and relevant. Thus making all your points, .... pointless.
Alcibiades
12-10-2010, 11:57 PM
CF is, as usual, bang on in his assessment.
Angela
13-10-2010, 02:09 AM
CF is, as usual, bang on in his assessment.
Well not really since:
Yes, you were a defensive alliance, and we were more of an offensive alliance. The point several people have tried to make is that we didn't "give up without a fight", it's just that our fight had been on the offensive rather than the defensive. Just because you're a defensive alliance doesn't allow you to negate all the offensive work we did when comparing pressure/speed of collapse/burnout
i Will take this as if you are talking to me since, you seem to be talking to me, it is res ARE a defensive alliance not were, and i don't think ive been negative about your alliance or infact made a comment at all about why you went into sleep mode or the effect it as had on anything, i will say that from previous experience / rounds that an entire alliance going into sleepmode it as to my knowledge never ended pretty. You guys played a tactical decision (or at least its how it looked) and it didn't work seems everyone needs to move past it :)
Alcibiades
13-10-2010, 02:13 AM
We have moved past it, it would appear you guys haven't. CF is still correct ;) neither you or LS has broached the subject of how you guys have endured more and been under more pressure than dRQ. Feel free to try.
Angela
13-10-2010, 02:36 AM
We have moved past it, it would appear you guys haven't. CF is still correct ;) neither you or LS has broached the subject of how you guys have endured more and been under more pressure than dRQ. Feel free to try.
I will leave that to LS as ive already stated i don't care enough and only hang out here when im bored :D
bluehen55
13-10-2010, 02:38 AM
Well I think it has been mentioned before and I'll just say it again, but there is nobody that spent time both in Res and dRQ, so its is impossible, or at least very difficult, for anyone to compare the pressure both allies have been under.
Alcibiades
13-10-2010, 02:38 AM
That's fair enough lol. Always a pleasure to have more forum engagement
LuckySports
13-10-2010, 02:45 AM
Also, this made me lol:
Also, not being FTW, theres no requirement to get on for major attacks, so seeing more than 11-12 people online to send an attack, that will stick around, is rare.
Seeing 18+ people online to send defense, thats a different story :P
There's nothing essentially different between defence and offence. You can't label us as FTW if we have lots of people on for attacks, and label yourselves as not-FTW if you have lots of people on for defence. What you've done there is taken reason and given it several hard smacks round the face while the logic-fail police have been standing watching. And now they're going to take you away.
I can swap RQ with Res and offensive with defensive in all of your posts referring to ftw/ftw and offensive/defensive and they stay both logical and relevant. Thus making all your points, .... pointless.
Getting people on for an attack is a lot harder, as most people won't send as they don't want to have to be around for recalls.. Defense is Easier, because its basically send and forget. Its fairly rare that we recall defense even when we know it won't end well.
Thats what differentiates between a FTW alliance, and the rest.. OFFENSE :P
timthetyrant
13-10-2010, 04:35 AM
i thought the difference between FTF and FTW was the letters "F" and "W". Now i know we have been over this somewhere and sometime in the past, but i believe FTW is just a subcatergory of FTF, because winning is fun, i can enjoy the competition/challenge/pressure especially if it all works out, and then you have the rest of the round to beat down on peons. Im pretty sure no1 would play a game if they got no enjoyment.
So you get your kicks out of defending against the pressure and you are up for the the challenge, to have some fun now there isnt much competition. to me that sounds just like RQ when we were "FTW" except that we had both offense/defense.
PS:Angela is right, these forums do help fight the boredom
LuckySports
13-10-2010, 04:49 AM
i thought the difference between FTF and FTW was the letters "F" and "W". Now i know we have been over this somewhere and sometime in the past, but i believe FTW is just a subcatergory of FTF, because winning is fun, i can enjoy the competition/challenge/pressure especially if it all works out, and then you have the rest of the round to beat down on peons. Im pretty sure no1 would play a game if they got no enjoyment.
So you get your kicks out of defending against the pressure and you are up for the the challenge, to have some fun now there isnt much competition. to me that sounds just like RQ when we were "FTW" except that we had both offense/defense.
PS:Angela is right, these forums do help fight the boredom
No one used the term "FTF" I've been saying "Not FTW" which is different.. Our goal isn't to win at all. :P
and yea, the forums DO Fight boredom.. ^_^
No-Dachi
13-10-2010, 07:15 AM
Finally a sensible post!
This whole thread is jokes anyway. It's obvious to everyone that:
Aphal were by far the most committed alliance as evidenced by their early lead and fast rebuild after getting resisted, and they deserve rank 1 more than any other alliance this round.
Res have been a solid steady alliance, which have done well to maintain a consistent good rank despite constant incoming (albeit not as severe as RQ and Aphal's).
RQ were the best offensive alliance while they were trying, but burnt themselves out and didn't have the commitment to maintain top level play for the 3+ weeks required this round.
Anything beyond this assessment is really just ego polishing.
Well said. This sums it all up as far as I'm concerned.
CFalcon
13-10-2010, 07:37 AM
Getting people on for a defence is a lot harder, as most people won't send as they don't want to have to be around for recalls.. Offense is Easier, because its basically send and forget. Its fairly rare that we recall offense even when we know it won't end well.
You see how easy this is? Only difference between the two is in your mind-set. Any difference in activity is purely circumstantial. I've been involved in a thousand defences that have been more time consuming than a standard RQ alliance attack, which quite alot of the time only requires ~5 mins of activity from most members.
Now I'll ask again, what exactly allows you to:
label us as FTW if we have lots of people on for attacks, and label yourselves as not-FTW if you have lots of people on for defence.
??
All this is besides the point anyway. I only got involved in this thread to refute this claim:
The simple truth is, you gave up without a fight.
Which I did refute in my previous post and you still haven't commented on. Am I to take that as a withdrawal of that statement? In which case my work here is done.
Angela
13-10-2010, 10:55 AM
Now I'll ask again, what exactly allows you to:
Quote:
Originally Posted by CFalcon
label us as FTW if we have lots of people on for attacks, and label yourselves as not-FTW if you have lots of people on for defence.
??
see this is how lazy im getting but from what ive read somewhere (who knows where) someone from your alliance said that you guys changed from ftf to ftw so technically you labelled yourself s
CFalcon
13-10-2010, 11:16 AM
see this is how lazy im getting but from what ive read somewhere (who knows where) someone from your alliance said that you guys changed from ftf to ftw so technically you labelled yourself s
sshhhh Angela, I don't really care about the labels, I'm just trying to rip LS' argument apart 'cos I dislike faulty logic with a passion. And don't like having my motives/integrity called into question on the basis of faulty logic either.
Now I realise that i don't think ive been negative about your alliance or infact made a comment at all about why you went into sleep mode while LS has.
Hence: Really addressed to LS, but your post illustrates it better Angela.
I think we went from active/contactable, to inactive/uncontactable - There hasn't been any detraction from our fun, it has merely been redirected.
LuckySports
13-10-2010, 01:41 PM
Getting people on for a defence is a lot harder, as most people won't send as they don't want to have to be around for recalls.. Offense is Easier, because its basically send and forget. Its fairly rare that we recall offense even when we know it won't end well.
You see how easy this is? Only difference between the two is in your mind-set. Any difference in activity is purely circumstantial. I've been involved in a thousand defences that have been more time consuming than a standard RQ alliance attack, which quite alot of the time only requires ~5 mins of activity from most members.
Now I'll ask again, what exactly allows you to:
label us as FTW if we have lots of people on for attacks, and label yourselves as not-FTW if you have lots of people on for defence.
??
There is a huge difference between offense and defense. I've never been in an alliance where people were more willing to attack, and less to defend, it is usually the other way around.
For the average alliance member, the time required for defense is just long enough to be told where to send, and then they can go off to do whatever w/o worries for a bit.
For offense, they will have to be contactable in the event of a recall - that takes the potential required time from about 5-10 minutes, to closer to an hour. Most people don't want to spend that much time mulling around.
Now, for the coordinators, the time spent offense/defense is usually about the same, since they have to get people online, decide where to go, read the attacks/defense, pick land-hits/recalls, ect..
All this is besides the point anyway. I only got involved in this thread to refute this claim:
The simple truth is, you gave up without a fight.
Which I did refute in my previous post and you still haven't commented on. Am I to take that as a withdrawal of that statement? In which case my work here is done.
You hit mass sleep mode, Thats as good as giving up to me. Maybe I just have high standards for being stubborn? But I'd still be fighting if I was you guys. You could have lasted through the weekend and then went back on the offensive starting monday.
CFalcon
13-10-2010, 03:18 PM
You hit mass sleep mode, Thats as good as giving up to me. Maybe I just have high standards for being stubborn? But I'd still be fighting if I was you guys. You could have lasted through the weekend and then went back on the offensive starting monday.
The point of contention was "without a fight", not "giving up". Of course we gave up, but it was after a fortnight of high stress and activity and the prospect of at least another fortnight of it if we continued. We didn't want that, sorry.
I don't know how I can make this more clear. Without a fight is what I'm arguing against.
Twigley
13-10-2010, 03:27 PM
In my opinion, Res have put up just as much of a fight, if not more Against Apha.
Howevever.
Res havn't been 2/3/4 v'ed agianst like dRage have Pre and Post sleepmode for large periods of time.
Sorry if that's already been said, i cba reading through all the sameish responses!
LuckySports
14-10-2010, 02:40 AM
You hit mass sleep mode, Thats as good as giving up to me. Maybe I just have high standards for being stubborn? But I'd still be fighting if I was you guys. You could have lasted through the weekend and then went back on the offensive starting monday.
The point of contention was "without a fight", not "giving up". Of course we gave up, but it was after a fortnight of high stress and activity and the prospect of at least another fortnight of it if we continued. We didn't want that, sorry.
I don't know how I can make this more clear. Without a fight is what I'm arguing against.
Sorry, without a fight and giving up are the same to me I guess ^_^ I suppose if I were more correct with my defnitions, then my original statement was incorrect, you guys DID fight, but then you gave up.
To me, giving up isn't really an option.. too many people do it already. ^_^ Sorry for the confusion.
Alcibiades
14-10-2010, 02:44 AM
Then you've never been in our position lol. And thus should not comment.
LuckySports
14-10-2010, 02:57 AM
Then you've never been in our position lol. And thus should not comment.
Your situation of giving up? There's a reason for that..
Alcibiades
14-10-2010, 03:08 AM
I meant our alliance situation in general. I suspect you've never been in our position before; otherwise you wouldn't be positing such a ridiculous series of assumptions in forums.
Then you've never been in our position lol. And thus should not comment.
Your situation of giving up? There's a reason for that..
I'm sure there is, however, politeness prevents me from illustrating it in public. :(
LuckySports
14-10-2010, 03:24 AM
I meant our alliance situation in general. I suspect you've never been in our position before; otherwise you wouldn't be positing such a ridiculous series of assumptions in forums.
Then you've never been in our position lol. And thus should not comment.
Your situation of giving up? There's a reason for that..
I'm sure there is, however, politeness prevents me from illustrating it in public. :(
illistrate it? :O Pretty sure porn is not aloud on here :P
but really? I'm pretty sure I was in a WORSE situation last round, where I was leading an alliance that got triple-teamed by the top 3 alliances.. How's that for your "situation" ?
Alcibiades
14-10-2010, 03:26 AM
Wasn't paying much attention last round, but it can't have been very close to this round's affairs, otherwise you wouldn't be making such an asshat out of yourself on forums while making wild accusations and absurd assumptions about an alliance you aren't in, and simply don't understand :P Thanks for the entertainment though :P
Illustrate can mean more than just pictures/diagrams, by the way.
LuckySports
14-10-2010, 06:18 AM
Wasn't paying much attention last round, but it can't have been very close to this round's affairs, otherwise you wouldn't be making such an asshat out of yourself on forums while making wild accusations and absurd assumptions about an alliance you aren't in, and simply don't understand :P Thanks for the entertainment though :P
Illustrate can mean more than just pictures/diagrams, by the way.
Nothing wild or absurd other than your use of the words "accusations" and "assumptions" :P
but really? I'm pretty sure I was in a WORSE situation last round, where I was leading an alliance that got triple-teamed by the top 3 alliances.. How's that for your "situation" ?
Not really LS - None of it was organized on any level. Ours were two alliances of co-ordinated waves, and two alliances piggybacking.
Yours last round was 4/5 members from 2 alliances, and 3/4 from another sending attacks to a few people. That happens alot, though what happens to us I personally haven't seen in a long time.
InSoMnIaC20
14-10-2010, 12:52 PM
That's funny that DaX where you in the alliance to see exactly what incoming we had?
Your point is null and void, just a mere fabrication of your imagination.
Seriously guys, lock this thing already. As much fun as cyclic arguments are...
tobapopalos
14-10-2010, 04:17 PM
Seriously guys, lock this thing already. As much fun as cyclic arguments are...
Cyclic arguments are fun because they're cyclic and that makes them fun and that's because they're cyclic which is why they're fun which is why they're fun which is *BRAIN MELTDOWN*
I agree with what Davs said.
That's funny that DaX where you in the alliance to see exactly what incoming we had?
Your point is null and void, just a mere fabrication of your imagination.
Because I'm amazing and often drift in many others' alliance channels. :>
LuckySports
15-10-2010, 02:41 AM
but really? I'm pretty sure I was in a WORSE situation last round, where I was leading an alliance that got triple-teamed by the top 3 alliances.. How's that for your "situation" ?
Not really LS - None of it was organized on any level. Ours were two alliances of co-ordinated waves, and two alliances piggybacking.
Yours last round was 4/5 members from 2 alliances, and 3/4 from another sending attacks to a few people. That happens alot, though what happens to us I personally haven't seen in a long time.
It was more than that.. when we had incoming from the 3 alliances at once, it was 10+ people from 1 alliance, 7-8 from another, and around 5-6 from the 3rd..
Pile on the fact that most of my members were UC.. we did a great job holding back the hordes while we could, but we eventually got overwhelmed, and people started sleeping through pranks.. I held out for as long as I could before passing out.. Woke up 24hrs later to an alliance where everyone not in sleep was zeroed, and those those raped down to less than 3k acres... over 100k acres gone in 24hrs..
And Dax, you may have floated around, but you were never in my alliance. :P I put notes on everyone I kicked or left, and if I remember correctly, you were in the rank 2 ally all round.
Seriously guys, lock this thing already. As much fun as cyclic arguments are...
Cyclic arguments are fun because they're cyclic and that makes them fun and that's because they're cyclic which is why they're fun which is why they're fun which is *BRAIN MELTDOWN*
I agree with what Davs said.
made me lol
definitely the best post in the thread :P
And Dax, you may have floated around, but you were never in my alliance. :P I put notes on everyone I kicked or left, and if I remember correctly, you were in the rank 2 ally all round.
Yes - It's a relatively bad habit of mine, staying in one alliance for the whole round. ;D
New best alliance of the round - Bribemania.
Score:Land ratio is very impressive. The honourable playstyle is beginning to pay off, it appears.
Twigley
18-10-2010, 12:27 PM
DaX, how little you know about this round and how much you've been kept in the dark and only seen a fraction of the story, is begining to be pretty embarassing.
Also the fact i am posting in a thread which has become fail and should be locked makes me embarassed too :(
DaX, how little you know about this round and how much you've been kept in the dark and only seen a fraction of the story, is begining to be pretty embarassing.
Also the fact i am posting in a thread which has become fail and should be locked makes me embarassed too :(
Wait a minute, whilst I giggle to myself, and use the classic Twiglet reply:
"It's my opinion, I don't care if you like it or not."
Voila.
Twigley
18-10-2010, 02:06 PM
You obviously do or else you wouldn't reply in that way.
Have some lemonade:
http://tipdeck.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Home-made-Lemonade-Recipe.jpg
Tasty lemonade,
Tasty Tasty lemonade,
Lemonade Haiku.
*EDIT; Trolololol
You advertised cloudy lemonade in the picture, but offered standard lemonade. I call shenanigans.
*EDIT; Trolololol
You advertised cloudy lemonade in the picture, but offered standard lemonade. I call shenanigans.
That's a lie. He was advocating "tastey lemonade". I read that as cloudy lemonade as it is vastly superior to its colourless alternative.
EDIT: And oh yeh - CLICKY (http://www.bushtarion.com/forums/showpost.php?p=65763&postcount=181)
Hobbezak
19-10-2010, 12:06 PM
EDIT: And oh yeh - CLICKY (http://www.bushtarion.com/forums/showpost.php?p=65763&postcount=181)
I'm sorry, but:
1. You're not involved in any of this, so imho your claims on "zomg this thread is going nowhere bla bla bla" are irrelevant, and also quite annoying tbh. Obviously if you'll post every 3 other posts "this is going nowhere, lock", this thread will evidently go nowhere.
2. The fastest way of having a thread like this die, is by erm, not posting. How about you give the example on that?
edit: Basically, what I'm saying, is a common internet rule: Wannabe moderators suck.
1. You're not involved in any of this, so imho your claims on "zomg this thread is going nowhere bla bla bla" are irrelevant, and also quite annoying tbh.
So my status as an outsider means that I'm not capable of reading the posts and realising that they all say the same things over and over again? Ok...
You advertised cloudy lemonade in the picture, but offered standard lemonade. I call shenanigans.
That's a lie. He was advocating "tastey lemonade". I read that as cloudy lemonade as it is vastly superior to its colourless alternative.
Simply stating that it is tasty does not condone it to be cloudy! I request less assumption, and more detail!
Hobbezak
19-10-2010, 05:57 PM
1. You're not involved in any of this, so imho your claims on "zomg this thread is going nowhere bla bla bla" are irrelevant, and also quite annoying tbh.
So my status as an outsider means that I'm not capable of reading the posts and realising that they all say the same things over and over again? Ok...
No, it means it's irrelevant, as you're not involved in the discussion, which means you can just ignore it all together. You've made your point once (which is fair, even though annoying), no need to do it multiple times. No one likes a wannabe mod.
edit: Anyway, I'll just take a piece of my own medicine, and ignore your wannabe posts, annoying as they may be. Btw I just noticed I really like the capital letter A for some reason. Talk about irrelevancy :O
atsanjose
19-10-2010, 08:29 PM
bump
bump
bump
2nd
LuckySports
21-10-2010, 04:52 AM
This thread might as well be locked, or moved to spam, since there hasn't been an on-topic post in a while.
LAFiN
21-10-2010, 02:35 PM
Who is the retard who couldn't spell COMPETITION?
Who is the retard who couldn't spell COMPETITION?
they're saving that name for the new thread, after this one gets locked.
timthetyrant
22-10-2010, 05:56 AM
we need more competizion!
bluehen55
22-10-2010, 06:17 AM
Lies!!!!! We have exactly the right amount of competition now.
timthetyrant
22-10-2010, 06:40 AM
Hero must be so bored, his own alliance is offereing no competition to him, i swear he has been on top since day one
Hero must be so bored, his own alliance is offereing no competition to him, i swear he has been on top since day one
MISINFORMATION.
And I did post the spelling mistake in post #2. :>
Ogluk
22-10-2010, 12:35 PM
Hero must be so bored, his own alliance is offereing no competition to him, i swear he has been on top since day one
But he k/raped Recon when it looked like Recon would be challenging him for r1 :O
/lol
Twigley
22-10-2010, 12:55 PM
Wasn't Cid rank 1?
Then insom?
Then Recon would have been?
deathscythe
22-10-2010, 03:33 PM
cid however went SQ solo himself
willymchilybily
22-10-2010, 04:21 PM
seen some people say alliance x,y,z is not ftf.... its all lies. and then it kinda muddled itself out by page 4 so i stopped reading.
but to me i define ftf as. not enough acitve competitive members. with enough drive to put in the time and effort that is normally required to win.
therefore. if ftf alliances manage to get a good rank/score/lead by putting in less effort, or playing politically, and has a chance of winning, its likely to spur them on to put in more time and effort, and as such they may start playing more and more ftw.......But. the fact that they arent ftw to me means thier members pick and chose to be active or inactive to help others or be selfish. and arent expected to conform to a set standard
in short ftf is reconizable by an allaince not kicking members, to try and cut away at dead weight. and to date res. has only replaced 1 member. i think thats not bad going for any alliance. and quite an achievement. and not something characteristic of a ftw alliance in modern rounds.
tobapopalos
22-10-2010, 06:50 PM
cid however went SQ solo himself
How is going solo scorequeening? If he wanted to scorequeen he'd be better off staying in rank 1, since surely the rank 1 alliance would kill him as soon as he went solo. Or am I missing something?
Ogluk
22-10-2010, 09:34 PM
cid however went SQ solo himself
How is going solo scorequeening? If he wanted to scorequeen he'd be better off staying in rank 1, since surely the rank 1 alliance would kill him as soon as he went solo. Or am I missing something?
he lost land to an attack by dRQ and quit Apha because of it :P
tobapopalos
23-10-2010, 01:47 PM
cid however went SQ solo himself
How is going solo scorequeening? If he wanted to scorequeen he'd be better off staying in rank 1, since surely the rank 1 alliance would kill him as soon as he went solo. Or am I missing something?
he lost land to an attack by dRQ and quit Apha because of it :P
The irony of rage quitting because of being attacked by Rage Quit. Delicious.
cid however went SQ solo himself
How is going solo scorequeening? If he wanted to scorequeen he'd be better off staying in rank 1, since surely the rank 1 alliance would kill him as soon as he went solo. Or am I missing something?
he lost land to an attack by dRQ and quit Apha because of it :P
The irony of rage quitting because of being attacked by Rage Quit. Delicious.
Then the irony of 40-50% of dRQ RQ'ing because of bum-pummelling early-round.
You can't win 'em all.
Cid leaving Apha was lols.
Rofl - And people wonder why nobody sticks around to play this game?
Yonder my incoming screen, are incomings from four alliances, mass training nearly half of our alliance - Including Aphallatosis members. Shocking. My assumption is you are all too lazy to attack one another? I dunno - I don't keep tabs on this game anymore.
An inactive fun alliance gets bashed by 4 higher and contactable/active alliances. For shame.
atsanjose
28-10-2010, 02:50 PM
Rofl - And people wonder why nobody sticks around to play this game?
Yonder my incoming screen, are incomings from four alliances, mass training nearly half of our alliance - Including Aphallatosis members. Shocking. My assumption is you are all too lazy to attack one another? I dunno - I don't keep tabs on this game anymore.
An inactive fun alliance gets bashed by 4 higher and contactable/active alliances. For shame.
strange, we only get bot incoming :D
Rofl - And people wonder why nobody sticks around to play this game?
Yonder my incoming screen, are incomings from four alliances, mass training nearly half of our alliance - Including Aphallatosis members. Shocking. My assumption is you are all too lazy to attack one another? I dunno - I don't keep tabs on this game anymore.
An inactive fun alliance gets bashed by 4 higher and contactable/active alliances. For shame.
strange, we only get bot incoming :D
Roflol. Eh, I'm done with this game now anyways, but that doesn't mean I can't point out how incredibly lame you all are for doing that.
The obvious reply is "oh it's the game, deal with it". But it's the playerbase, not the game. A playerbase makes a game good or complete crap, ultimately.
You can't fix a game with people that don't mind ruining other people's fun for their gain - There are little enough players as it is - Man up and play this game properly, for crying out loud.
Twigley
28-10-2010, 03:12 PM
From: S2S member on alliance politics [PR0], 28th Oct, 13:47:19 Delete Edit Quote
dRage is being hit by two other allies atm, might not be the best idea to add a 3rd... But thats just my opinion.
I, of all people, have tried to instill honourable play this round to my alliance.
it's unfortunate that you are the ones at the bottom of everyones range at the top.
I didn't say absolutely everyone is to blame - But in the situation this game is in, you would think people that enjoy this game would do their best to keep it going. But you also know as well as I do how badly R30 damaged the playerbase too, Twigley.
Twigley
28-10-2010, 03:55 PM
I don't think it was the reason the playerbase died at all.
Ogluk
28-10-2010, 04:41 PM
I don't think it was the reason the playerbase died at all.
certainly not the sole reason correct, but it did lead to a fair few people quitting
the writing was already on the wall far before then though
I don't think it was the reason the playerbase died at all.
certainly not the sole reason correct, but it did lead to a fair few people quitting
the writing was already on the wall far before then though
And I did say that in my post as well. There's no rejuvenation in the playerbase, no new blood, no real advertisement, no real changes made by the creator, and the playerbase has this foul code of conduct that by "well if everyone else is doing it, we should do it too". It's so boring. No one tries to do anything risky anymore, or go against the masses (like Tob did in FunkyTown by not partaking in any groups for Resistance or whatever).
Even when I was mostly solo in the latter golden days of Bushtarion playerbase, I still got to see things like GloPols, and the forum posts, and the IRC chatter in the first round I was allied. Alot of that has just gone dead in the water, and it's such a shame really.
Angela
30-10-2010, 01:12 PM
I don't think it was the reason the playerbase died at all.
certainly not the sole reason correct, but it did lead to a fair few people quitting
the writing was already on the wall far before then though
And I did say that in my post as well. There's no rejuvenation in the playerbase, no new blood, no real advertisement, no real changes made by the creator, and the playerbase has this foul code of conduct that by "well if everyone else is doing it, we should do it too". It's so boring. No one tries to do anything risky anymore, or go against the masses (like Tob did in FunkyTown by not partaking in any groups for Resistance or whatever).
Even when I was mostly solo in the latter golden days of Bushtarion playerbase, I still got to see things like GloPols, and the forum posts, and the IRC chatter in the first round I was allied. Alot of that has just gone dead in the water, and it's such a shame really.
I agree with most what Dax is saying (i know dax a first for everything :p) but im not sure getting rid of glopols was a bad thing.
Twigley
30-10-2010, 02:26 PM
Well i agree with everything he said after his comment about round 30.
They are the real reasons the playerbase numbers died out.
And because the numbers dwindle, the game mechanics suffered as a result to compensate new styles of play rather than adressing the core problem which is lack of players.
Edit: I also find it a shame that alliance stories are no longer written or the forum politics section is used for nothing but flaming others.
tobapopalos
30-10-2010, 03:01 PM
From: S2S member on alliance politics [PR0], 28th Oct, 13:47:19 Delete Edit Quote
dRage is being hit by two other allies atm, might not be the best idea to add a 3rd... But thats just my opinion.
I, of all people, have tried to instill honourable play this round to my alliance.
it's unfortunate that you are the ones at the bottom of everyones range at the top.
What a great way to discourage people from taking advantage. "HEY GUYS THIS ALLIANCE IS GETTING RAPED SO THERE IS FREE LAND AND SHIZZLE BUT I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD ATTACK THEM".
Nice one.
Twigley
30-10-2010, 03:04 PM
Except you've got it totally the wrong way round and just made an ass of yourself.
Drage got the incs from 2/3 allies then some of our members sent. So he put that message afterwards to tell them they should recall, not send and nobody else should either.
Nice one.
tobapopalos
30-10-2010, 03:07 PM
That's not what it sounded like, but whatever you say, Oh Mighty Lord Of All that Is Truthful.
Twigley
30-10-2010, 03:10 PM
Sorry that you misinterpretated it.
tobapopalos
30-10-2010, 03:15 PM
Apology acceptated.
At the end of the day, I am only pointing out the sheer madness this game has gotten down to - An inactive alliance teaching a few players how to play (trying to insert new blood that is pretty much totally absent) without enforcing a contactability ideal, and are just trying to have fun.
13 players organised over 1 player 40% of their size and below on 3/4 players? You bunch of morons.
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