View Full Version : Rank 1: Enmity/Second To None/Old Farts
Steve_God
05-07-2009, 03:07 PM
As everyoneseems to be doing nothing but rambling and moaning, I'll explain the current situation for those in competition for Rank 1, from an outsiders point of view... and it's simple.
If Second To None and Enmity go for an all out war on each other right now, it's highly likely that before a winner comes out of the warring, they will both take substantial looses, around roughly 1/3 of their alliance scores.
That would almost certainly put Old Farts in the lead, and therefore wouldn't be an option for either of them, and makes it pointless them warring.
So their next option on route to securing/gaining Rank 1 is to wipe out the easiest competition first, hope that in the process they get much bigger in terms of land, and will then put them in a much better position to securing/gaining Rank 1.
This means that the only option is for either Second To None or Enmity to win, is to take out Old Farts.
Old Farts aren't stupid. They've already worked this out, and that's why they're trying to play it tactically, by sleeping in mass, lie about it being a 'protest stance' amoungst many other reasons, and hoping that the other two will war it out anyway (Which they won't due to the above reasons... Twigs and JJ aren't fools*) :P
So... what will happen next is:
- People will moan on the Forums lots while nothing is happening.
- Old Farts will come out of sleep (Whenever that is).
- Both Second To None and Enmity will see it within 2/3 ticks of each other, and both end up massing Old Farts at around the same kind of time, both trying to get the land advantage over the other.
- Old Farts will come on the Forums complaining that the other two allies are powerblocking again, everyone will do a bit of spying around, and it will indeed look that way.
- Old Farts will then be dead in terms of being a challenge to Rank 1 (although they still might stay as Rank 3 if enough of them go back into sleep to slow the onslaught).
- Roughly two days will pass to let the storm settle and people rebuild their troops from any losses they've taken gaining lands from Old Farts, and then Second To None and Enmity will most likely start to battle out. I would assume that whoever is Rank 1 will end up initiating it, as Rank 2 will be delaying it and trying to get as many supporter allies as possible by persuading them that it's resisting the Rank 1 ally.
And that's all there is to it - Very simple! :)
*well they are... but they're clever when it comes to in-game diplomacy ;)
DarkSider
05-07-2009, 03:15 PM
Given the timing of the post i found this thread highly amusing :D
Iamsmart
05-07-2009, 03:26 PM
Given the timing of the post i found this thread highly amusing :D
^ Nice
Edit: Good post though :P
IceOfFire
05-07-2009, 04:04 PM
I'm going to say this one more time...
We hit sleep to because we had 7 members away or uncontactable this week
This is the sole main reason we needed to hit sleep. The fact that it *may* course a war is a bonus. As many of us have said, we are not here for rank 1. So the fact you keep saying we are is just silly!
We hit sleep because a 13 man alliance just wouldn't work. Also when En kill S2N, they will steal so much land and be up to like 1mill land mark an alliance on 450k is never going to stop them.
Also if they hit S2N in like the next week and win the war, they have ages to rebuild before we are out of sleep!
So if they choose sitting around for 2 weeks, sure it won't be that fun!
So no SG, i think your wrong on most of your points there, but meh. Ill get flamed and shouted at. Because everyone else knows our intentions better than us! 13 members is why we hit sleep not for another chance at rank 1.
This is the sole main reason we needed to hit sleep.
So you admit there are other minor reasons?
i'd imagine it to be lucrative for either s2n or enm to wait for the otherone to send at OF then think wether they should send to OF or perhaps somewhere else ;)
IceOfFire
05-07-2009, 04:20 PM
This is the sole main reason we needed to hit sleep.
So you admit there are other minor reasons?
OMFG...
/me ****s Davs with a massive naab award!!
Read my other posts!!!! I said every time, ONE of the main reasons we hit sleep is due to 13 members.
I also named some others...ffs do ppl ever read properly?!!?
Matthew
05-07-2009, 04:27 PM
This is the sole main reason we needed to hit sleep.
So you admit there are other minor reasons?
OMFG...
/me ****s Davs with a massive naab award!!
Read my other posts!!!! I said every time, ONE of the main reasons we hit sleep is due to 13 members.
I also named some others...ffs do ppl ever read properly?!!?
lmfao but your retarded and filling your posts full of oxymoron's which are consequently making you look as thick as pudding. If you have 1 reason, you state 1 reason and shut the **** up. You don't then further elaborate giving 4 or 5 'possible' reasons which you didn't think of or are being used to illustrate a good decision being made. I suggest you go back to bed or just stop posting because you are just posting incoherant **** which is borderline DA madness.
Dark_Angel
05-07-2009, 04:33 PM
I'm being used as a measure of madness now? Gtfo Chewie :P
On topic: Not a bad analysis Steve.
Khris
05-07-2009, 04:40 PM
so to sum up steves post.
Rounds over. Em wins.
They found one more excuse not to attack each other. Nothing new. GG Goodbye.
Shadow
05-07-2009, 04:56 PM
so to sum up steves post.
Rounds over. Em wins.
They found one more excuse not to attack each other. Nothing new. GG Goodbye.
mate we already know they are goign to stick with the BS and not hit each other but when we all out of sleep on same tick we mass bash the *****es!!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Iamsmart
05-07-2009, 04:57 PM
*Shakes his head and leaves*
I give this thread 2 hours before it's exactly the same as the other one...
Matthew
05-07-2009, 05:01 PM
tbh if they have powerbollocked i would prefer it because OF just seem like idiots whereas the other alliances (bar DA's MADNESS and IamButtNugget) seem far more rational. Glad OF aren't going to win.
Alcibiades
05-07-2009, 05:08 PM
I give this thread 2 hours before it's exactly the same as the other one...
2 hours is an optimistic timeframe.
Dark_Angel
05-07-2009, 05:10 PM
so to sum up steves post.
Rounds over. Em wins.
They found one more excuse not to attack each other. Nothing new. GG Goodbye.
mate we already know they are goign to stick with the BS and not hit each other but when we all out of sleep on same tick we mass bash the *****es!!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
s2n massed enmity less than an hour ago.
So take a frickin' seat and SHUSH :/
Khris
05-07-2009, 05:12 PM
lol... you tell us to shush...
when there is this whole thread created by someone about this same damn topic.
...
Turnip2k
05-07-2009, 06:58 PM
They will come up with whatever excuse they want for not attacking each other. There is no point arguing, since BS seems to be in endless supply on these forums.
Steve_God
05-07-2009, 07:06 PM
Given the timing of the post i found this thread highly amusing :D
I was gonna say what have a missed? And then spotted:
s2n massed enmity less than an hour ago.
Oh well! Guess I'm VERY out of the loop at the moment :P
Dark_Angel
05-07-2009, 07:06 PM
They will come up with whatever excuse they want for not attacking each other. There is no point arguing, since BS seems to be in endless supply on these forums.
s2n massed enmity less than an hour ago.
Turnip2k
05-07-2009, 07:12 PM
I'll believe you are fighting when I see several good BR's. Sending mobs at each other to make it look like fighting is quite easily arranged in an SNAP.
Dark_Angel
05-07-2009, 07:16 PM
Battle Report - [Defending an Enmity member] (Around 2 hours ago)
[close] 180,842 hostile Geo-Phys Thief stole 3,814 land. [897] tree. [2,014] bush. [467] flower. [436] grass. [0] uncultivated.
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Yeah, we're donating land to s2n to make it look like we're not powerblocking. Suuuure. :roll: (Not that this land went to S2N, they had a well timed Piggy)
Turnip2k
05-07-2009, 07:21 PM
Passing land around doesn't prove alot - but its a start.
Get to the meaty BR's and people may start believing that you guys are actually fighting and not just passing land / fake mobs to and fro to make it look as such.
Dark_Angel
05-07-2009, 07:22 PM
Agreeing to transfer land is against the EULA, if you think the leadership of both alliances would knowingly and willingly do that you're quite wrong :P
Intense
05-07-2009, 07:27 PM
Battle Report - [Defending an Enmity member] (Around 2 hours ago)
[close] 180,842 hostile Geo-Phys Thief stole 3,814 land. [897] tree. [2,014] bush. [467] flower. [436] grass. [0] uncultivated.
-
Yeah, we're donating land to s2n to make it look like we're not powerblocking. Suuuure. :roll: (Not that this land went to S2N, they had a well timed Piggy)
S2N still did a little damage there, so it wasn't just "donating land".. - To stop ppl from whining about it.
Died: 43,432,060 [£1,422,340,749,500] enemies dead.
Bribed: 217,575 [£5,163,343,000] enemies bribed.
Alcibiades
05-07-2009, 07:31 PM
Agreeing to transfer land is against the EULA, if you think the leadership of both alliances would knowingly and willingly do that you're quite wrong :P
Of course the irony that JJ just got locked really proves that he wouldn't do anything against the EULA. Noooooooo, definitely not, eh? ;)
Silence
05-07-2009, 07:43 PM
Agreeing to transfer land is against the EULA, if you think the leadership of both alliances would knowingly and willingly do that you're quite wrong :P
Of course the irony that JJ just got locked really proves that he wouldn't do anything against the EULA. Noooooooo, definitely not, eh? ;)
Account sharing, not powerblocking. So please call JJ cheating scum, but when you accuse him of powerblocking, you also accuse a lot of others of cheating.
The hatred I expressed towards powerblocking last round, I really don't think I would be in an alliance which allows it.
The bad news about JJ being locked is this will be used as an excuse if Enmity do lose the war. Shame really, because picking on a bigger alliance is more interesting.
Turnip2k
05-07-2009, 07:46 PM
Account sharing, not powerblocking. So please call JJ cheating scum
Hang on. Is account sharing not cheating?
Alcibiades
05-07-2009, 07:53 PM
Agreeing to transfer land is against the EULA, if you think the leadership of both alliances would knowingly and willingly do that you're quite wrong :P
Of course the irony that JJ just got locked really proves that he wouldn't do anything against the EULA. Noooooooo, definitely not, eh? ;)
Account sharing, not powerblocking. So please call JJ cheating scum, but when you accuse him of powerblocking, you also accuse a lot of others of cheating.
The hatred I expressed towards powerblocking last round, I really don't think I would be in an alliance which allows it.
The bad news about JJ being locked is this will be used as an excuse if Enmity do lose the war. Shame really, because picking on a bigger alliance is more interesting.
i don't think i've accused anyone in this thread, or this round, of powerblocking. And if i have it was unintentionally done.
He is cheating scum, and i'm glad he's locked. Silly fool.
marvin
05-07-2009, 07:55 PM
Canadians DOWN!
Alcibiades
05-07-2009, 07:59 PM
Canadians DOWN!
not all of us ;)
IceOfFire
05-07-2009, 08:07 PM
JJ...AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHA
Eden...AHAHAHAHAHAHA
All i have to say! :D
Come on S2N :D
marvin
05-07-2009, 08:46 PM
Canadians DOWN!
not all of us ;)
Well, 'Canasians DOWN!' then. :P
Wartortle
06-07-2009, 04:54 AM
Canadians DOWN!
not all of us ;)
Well, 'Canasians DOWN!' then. :P
no.
Old Fart
06-07-2009, 05:54 AM
I don't know about anyone else, but i feel like i've just lost some braincells reading this and the OF snoozing thread.
Very nice post Steve.
Your analysis does have some flaws but that is only due to a lack of information on certain points.
It is not in S2N/Enmity best interests to wait - but i really hope they do :twisted:
Account sharing, not powerblocking. So please call JJ cheating scum
Hang on. Is account sharing not cheating?
It is cheating, that was the point and why he's locked...
Smooth, real smooth...
Twigley
14-07-2009, 08:07 PM
so to sum up steves post.
Rounds over. Em wins.
They found one more excuse not to attack each other. Nothing new. GG Goodbye.
so to sum up steves post.
Rounds over. Em wins.
They found one more excuse not to attack each other. Nothing new. GG Goodbye.
mate we already know they are goign to stick with the BS and not hit each other but when we all out of sleep on same tick we mass bash the *****es!!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
They will come up with whatever excuse they want for not attacking each other. There is no point arguing, since BS seems to be in endless supply on these forums.
I'll believe you are fighting when I see several good BR's. Sending mobs at each other to make it look like fighting is quite easily arranged in an SNAP.
Just had to say Lol, told you so at some of these posts.
Was gonna say lol earlier, but forgot.
Khris
14-07-2009, 08:09 PM
lol :P
cheers. had to stir the flames :P
so to sum up steves post.
Just had to say Lol, told you so at some of these posts.
Was gonna say lol earlier, but forgot.
Stop using drugs! ;)
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