Oh! What's Occuring? (RRR vs RRR...)

[Steve_God]

Just checking in after some inactivity and feel a bit lost as to what's going on...

What the hell is happening with with the two RRR's? :P

[IceOfFire]

Basically

Polo, Martin, CB1202, Alci, Bubbles, Kuda, icy and Fling_blind left RRR.

I spoke to Polo about it and he said it was because they were bored and unhappy with 2 members in particular. (Up to them to name and shame)

They joined a different RRR with a few people aGit, f0xx and Lukey are in there. And they have been slowly killing the other RRR members.

I myself, left while i could and joined another lower alliance to finish my round inactively.

Polo did express he felt sorry for the other RRR members but hey! **** happens! We were the best alliance and were did win the round. So i'm not angry!

[ZigZag]

It is a way for some of them to finally make it into a rank one ally.

[n0c0ntr0l]

Interesting development.

[aGit]

It is a way for some of them to finally make it into a rank one ally.

bitter much?

[ZigZag]

It is a way for some of them to finally make it into a rank one ally.

bitter much?

nope not at all, are you?

[Alcibiades]

It is a way for some of them to finally make it into a rank one ally.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but most of the players in RebelRinseRepeat have either won before (once or multiple times) or if not, were in the previous RRR this round. So your point, whilst hilariously bitter, is still invalid.

By all means call us assholes if you will; but to suggest we did this 'just to get into a rank one ally' is absurd.

[ZigZag]

It is a way for some of them to finally make it into a rank one ally.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but most of the players in RebelRinseRepeat have either won before (once or multiple times) or if not, were in the previous RRR this round. So your point, whilst hilariously bitter, is still invalid.

By all means call us assholes if you will; but to suggest we did this 'just to get into a rank one ally' is absurd.

Alci you should know I am not talking about the people who left ffs. Just shows very little class

[Alcibiades]

It is a way for some of them to finally make it into a rank one ally.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but most of the players in RebelRinseRepeat have either won before (once or multiple times) or if not, were in the previous RRR this round. So your point, whilst hilariously bitter, is still invalid.

By all means call us assholes if you will; but to suggest we did this 'just to get into a rank one ally' is absurd.

Alci you should know I am not talking about the people who left ffs. Just shows very little class

well considering i'm looking at the people who joined who weren't in RRR to begin with; most of them too have won rounds before. :P But i do take your point :)

[DarkSider]

Poor hero :'(

It was probably booring to do nothing for the rest of the round so this adds some drama and exciting events which are always good. I just hope when the new RRR kills the old RRR a few members will split again wahaha :D

[Garrett]

heh, the others you mentioned that joined the other rrr have also won.

this plan has been in the works for some time. :P

[ZigZag]

Poor hero :'(

It was probably booring to do nothing for the rest of the round so this adds some drama and exciting events which are always good. I just hope when the new RRR kills the old RRR a few members will split again wahaha :D

not really he just got a new job and was turning the ally over to someone else. He expected something like this to happen.

[Alcibiades]

this plan has been in the works for some time. :P

Since about the middle/end of last round in fact. I have the logs somewhere to prove it, which i'll dredge out in a little while :D

[ZigZag]

heh, the others you mentioned that joined the other rrr have also won.

this plan has been in the works for some time. :P

spin it how you want really don't matter at this point.

[aGit]

Poor hero :'(

It was probably booring to do nothing for the rest of the round so this adds some drama and exciting events which are always good. I just hope when the new RRR kills the old RRR a few members will split again wahaha :D

not really he just got a new job and was turning the ally over to someone else. He expected something like this to happen.

sure he did.

[ZigZag]

this plan has been in the works for some time. :P

Since about the middle/end of last round in fact. I have the logs somewhere to prove it, which i'll dredge out in a little while :D

remind me not to trust you in the future

[Alcibiades]

this plan has been in the works for some time. :P

Since about the middle/end of last round in fact. I have the logs somewhere to prove it, which i'll dredge out in a little while :D

remind me not to trust you in the future

Consider it done :D Us devious Canadians, slippery as eels and a thousand times as dangerous (lol)

[atsanjose]

Just checking in after some inactivity and feel a bit lost as to what's going on...

What the hell is happening with with the two RRR's? :P

who knows

but you have died!



moahahahahhahahaha

hmmmmm

[pinpower]

Well played! Good on you for doing something interesting which makes you slightly weaker! You could have just sat around and got your portal finishes but you decided to mix it up instead!

*claps*

[Matthew]

Polo did express he felt sorry for the other RRR members but hey! **** happens! We were the best alliance and were did win the round. So i'm not angry!

nah you didn't win the round ReRR are currently winning not RRR. You were the best alliance but now you are not. The fact of the matter is you won nothing. Everyone who remains in that alliance has lost spectacularly. You can not claim this as a round win in any way shape or form just as the TBA wings outside of inimical cannot claim a round win.

[Garrett]

we must dissent

[DarkSider]

Hmm i can't get this thought out of my mind ... Martin's gang vs Polo's gang .. who would win ? :D My money on Polo :P

[Garrett]

hmm if motivated, martin has the upper hand me thinks. would be highly interesting however..

[Ahead]

Well played! Good on you for doing something interesting which makes you slightly weaker! You could have just sat around and got your portal finishes but you decided to mix it up instead!

*claps*

You clearly don't understand and I don't feel all the facts have been portrayed accurately here, or by "spying around" as I noticed Alci say somewhere else. The fact of the matter is, it wasn't interesting: they deleted all the politics threads, removed contact information and did it when nobody else was online. Hardly "interesting" or fair and the ironic thing is most of them clearly did it to better their portal finish. And looking back at the members that did it now I can see why they would want to: clearly one person is such a SQ he wanted a rank 1 finish (no names mentioned but not hard to see that he's now rank 1 after he took out the two people that were beating him); 2 like the attention; 1 bums Martin (one of the makers of the plan) so hard he would probably suck him off in real life to get into his alliance; one likes to stir stuff (not as much wrong with that) and the last peaked too early and ran out of targets too early so got bored.

And it's not even as if their rank 1 is fully deserved after Silence organised most of the attacks earlier in the round.

Sure, everyone who was left in RRR is slightly bitter but these rubbish "facts" flying about here are BS. It was by no means fair and it was pure and simple betrayal. Had they asked for a split and an even 10v10 war I'm sure most would have been happy with it (more so in RapeRR than RebelRR), but they took it into their own hands and did it in a dirty and underhand way for no real reason.

They also weakened down 4 of RRR's key players in the days leading up to the betrayal by covering incs then recalling at eta 1 *accidently* - Alcibiades; and planning to get 3 members killed by making one of "them" recall from an attack *accidently* allowing the three of us to die a bit. That combined with the way they left (deleting pols etc) made it so much easier for them.

I've lost a huge amount of respect for everyone that left RRR and I've learnt a lot this round tbh about trust and loyalty, as well as general playing etc. The bottom line really is: the SQs left RRR to enhance their rank, and will now enjoy an even less deserved rank 1 than the powerblock last round (and imho what has happened this round is worse than the powerblock - I already know 3 big players that are quitting now, with this being the final straw). The detriment to the playerbase can't be seen yet but I won't be surprised if it will be bigger than that of last round.


Edit: also they left a spy in RRR for the first two waves - he joined them later.

[f0xx]

It is a way for some of them to finally make it into a rank one ally.

Who are you again?

[Garrett]

Heh of course attacking you while offline isn't fair.

I don't think anyone really is trying to contend that either RRR is squeaky clean.

It IS highly amusing though. The plan could have backfired, but it didn't. With 2-5 close in score... they could have and could still be possibly toppled.

They did and are taking a great Risk though... so the claims of 'Queening' really doesn't hold water.

To say this was done because someone felt cheated from rank 1 is really absurd.

[Ram]

Hmm i can't get this thought out of my mind ... Martin's gang vs Polo's gang .. who would win ? :D My money on Polo :P

Theres a difference?

[Alcibiades]

Heh of course attacking you while offline isn't fair.

I don't think anyone really is trying to contend that either RRR is squeaky clean.

It IS highly amusing though. The plan could have backfired, but it didn't. With 2-5 close in score... they could have and could still be possibly toppled.

They did and are taking a great Risk though... so the claims of 'Queening' really doesn't hold water.

To say this was done because someone felt cheated from rank 1 is really absurd.

I vote Garrett to be my mouthpiece all the time. He always says exactly what i mean to before i do :D

To add my two cents, we had this planned out from before the round even began ticking, so to say we did it to better our portal ranks is absolutely absurd.

btw Ahead, out of the players you listed and described, which one was i? :P

EDIT: Yeah, breaking up what was previously a stalemated round in an amusing manner sets a really bad precedent, much worse than 3 alliances powerblocking, doesn't it ahead? Get real.

[f0xx]

Hmm i can't get this thought out of my mind ... Martin's gang vs Polo's gang .. who would win ? :D My money on Polo :P

Lol. I think you would win no matter on who you would bet, silly gypsy :P

[Matthew]

Well played! Good on you for doing something interesting which makes you slightly weaker! You could have just sat around and got your portal finishes but you decided to mix it up instead!

*claps*

You clearly don't understand and I don't feel all the facts have been portrayed accurately here, or by "spying around" as I noticed Alci say somewhere else. The fact of the matter is, it wasn't interesting: they deleted all the politics threads, removed contact information and did it when nobody else was online. Hardly "interesting" or fair and the ironic thing is most of them clearly did it to better their portal finish. And looking back at the members that did it now I can see why they would want to: clearly one person is such a SQ he wanted a rank 1 finish (no names mentioned but not hard to see that he's now rank 1 after he took out the two people that were beating him); 2 like the attention; 1 bums Martin (one of the makers of the plan) so hard he would probably suck him off in real life to get into his alliance; one likes to stir stuff (not as much wrong with that) and the last peaked too early and ran out of targets too early so got bored.

And it's not even as if their rank 1 is fully deserved after Silence organised most of the attacks earlier in the round.

Sure, everyone who was left in RRR is slightly bitter but these rubbish "facts" flying about here are BS. It was by no means fair and it was pure and simple betrayal. Had they asked for a split and an even 10v10 war I'm sure most would have been happy with it (more so in RapeRR than RebelRR), but they took it into their own hands and did it in a dirty and underhand way for no real reason.

They also weakened down 4 of RRR's key players in the days leading up to the betrayal by covering incs then recalling at eta 1 *accidently* - Alcibiades; and planning to get 3 members killed by making one of "them" recall from an attack *accidently* allowing the three of us to die a bit. That combined with the way they left (deleting pols etc) made it so much easier for them.

I've lost a huge amount of respect for everyone that left RRR and I've learnt a lot this round tbh about trust and loyalty, as well as general playing etc. The bottom line really is: the SQs left RRR to enhance their rank, and will now enjoy an even less deserved rank 1 than the powerblock last round (and imho what has happened this round is worse than the powerblock - I already know 3 big players that are quitting now, with this being the final straw). The detriment to the playerbase can't be seen yet but I won't be surprised if it will be bigger than that of last round.

I can't say I feel anything but joy watching all your hard work get **** on. Maybe you should have sent Fardie/Farvie defence? **** off about this being worse than a powerblock. If this means the fetards or feople (see what i did there with the 'fake' word making up har har) quit due to controversy then excellent, they can go away and take all their crap with them, the fact is this is a war game and i'm fairly sure that **** happens in war e.g. the jews didn't find it fair to be liquidated however the fact of the matter is someone had the power to do it and he did. Infact why am I even trying to make this relatable? It's a game and you should treat it like one. Just make sure the door doesn't hit you on the way out.

[Antinoobkiller]

Somehow this is even more lame and noobish than last round of powerblockers.

I mean to kill your own alliance togheter with a few friends in it. I dont get it why you ppl ruin the game for your own lame matters and screw it for a lot of guys that have helped you to achieve your ranks.

I have always knew that you ppl ride on other ppls backs to achieve your ranks.

Damn noobs, get some real skills instead. Oh i forgot there is none in this game. Only the time and effort you put in to it but well its still fun game.

So im glad once again I can see what kind of skills you ppl have.

[lavadog]

Good thing you piggied on their attacks tho ANK ...

[Alcibiades]

Good thing you piggied on their attacks tho ANK ...

piggying is a 'real skill' ;) [/sarcasm]

[Enrico]

I find it just hilarious. And yeah, it must be a bit irritating for the ones who though they had the round made to find that a splinter group just wiped the floor with them, but that's life.

But bto those in RaRR who wanna quit and bwahwahwah... what ever you do, never play Diplomacy!

[f0xx]

Somehow this is even more lame and noobish than last round of powerblockers.

I mean to kill your own alliance togheter with a few friends in it. I dont get it why you ppl ruin the game for your own lame matters and screw it for a lot of guys that have helped you to achieve your ranks.

I have always knew that you ppl ride on other ppls backs to achieve your ranks.

Damn noobs, get some real skills instead. Oh i forgot there is none in this game. Only the time and effort you put in to it but well its still fun game.

So im glad once again I can see what kind of skills you ppl have.

The irony is overwhelming.

[Iamsmart]

I'd just like to post my support for those in RRR who got betrayed. According to some of the people who left you guys don't mind, but I'm sure some of you do. Being betrayed by your alliance members is pretty low. The way they went about it was even lower. Some people may say you deserve it because they don't like you - I guess that's how they justify it.

Just letting you know for those of you who DO care and DO feel betrayed that their are people who have your back!

<3 from Iamsmart

[f0xx]

I'd just like to post my support for those in RRR who got betrayed. According to some of the people who left you guys don't mind, but I'm sure some of you do. Being betrayed by your alliance members is pretty low. The way they went about it was even lower. Some people may say you deserve it because they don't like you - I guess that's how they justify it.

Just letting you know for those of you who DO care and DO feel betrayed that their are people who have your back!

<3 from Iamsmart

You want a reason?


[19:39:54] <f0xx> btw guys
[19:39:58] <f0xx> I am really curious
[19:40:03] <f0xx> why did you do what you did?
[19:40:21] <Alcibiades> well
[19:40:24] <Alcibiades> there are a bunch of reasons
[19:40:25] <icy|gone> cos we wanted you in our alliance
[19:40:32] <Alcibiades> ^^
[19:40:33] <Alcibiades> :P
[19:40:36] <icy|gone> hero didnt want f0xx
[19:40:40] <icy|gone> so we decided to leave him
[19:40:50] <Alcibiades> and we were like 'well **** that **** we want f0xx'
[19:40:54] <icy|gone> yeah
[19:41:04] <f0xx> now thats a good reason.

[Iamsmart]

rofl

[DarkSider]

I agree with smarty, It was pure betrayal not seeking for an epic battle so it must suck for those in RRR who stayed. However for an outsider as Garrett well said it's highly entertaining :p
Let the blood flow ! :D

[Matthew]

i'd just like to post my support for those in rrr who got betrayed. According to some of the people who left you guys don't mind, but i'm sure some of you do. Being betrayed by your alliance members is pretty low. The way they went about it was even lower. Some people may say you deserve it because they don't like you - i guess that's how they justify it.

Just letting you know for those of you who do care and do feel betrayed that their are people who have your back!

<3 from iamsmart

kill it with fire

[septimus]

So, according to IoF this was done because the people that did the betraying were unhappy with 2 people, and according to Alci this was planned last round?
So, before the round even began you guys knew that you disliked a couple people in the ally so much that you would ultimately betray them, regardless of where you were ranked?

Seems to me if I were in that position I would have just started/joined a new ally before the round began tbh.

[Alcibiades]

So, according to IoF this was done because the people that did the betraying were unhappy with 2 people, and according to Alci this was planned last round?
So, before the round even began you guys knew that you disliked a couple people in the ally so much that you would ultimately betray them, regardless of where you were ranked?

Seems to me if I were in that position I would have just started/joined a new ally before the round began tbh.

No you misunderstand the combination of factors here i think...

We had planned that 'if we won, we would split off a group and attack the remaining members.' That was the general extent of the planning. As the round progressed certain of our 'group' as it later came to be, became increasingly irritated with a few of the 'other group' members and this became a factor in our attack plan when we left. I can't speak entirely for martin/Polo since that would be just rude of me, but for my part, killing a few people i personally disliked was a nice bonus to a fun, planned, event. Or at least tried to kill, since many of them were pranked online to send out/send defence.

All this betrayal and loyalty talk is complete crap. We are barely acquaintances over the internet in an alliance in a game. It's not like you're my blood brother sworn to fight with me til death do us part. At least some members of the RaRR ally have the good grace and sense of humour to recognize something funny when they see it. It is the (unsurprising) few who are so upset about being 'betrayed'. This is still a game, isn't it?

[Silence]

All this betrayal and loyalty talk is complete crap. We are barely acquaintances over the internet in an alliance in a game. It's not like you're my blood brother sworn to fight with me til death do us part. At least some members of the RaRR ally have the good grace and sense of humour to recognize something funny when they see it. It is the (unsurprising) few who are so upset about being 'betrayed'. This is still a game, isn't it?

I totally agree here. It's a war game, hell if I had thought of doing that first I would have gathered a few of the members together and done the same for the sheer thrill of doing so. Its a war game, **** happens =P

The building is the fun part anyway. Im just pissed that I didnt think of it first :D Just was too bad I was too busy working out what score everyone would be on if they planted to ensure I could have maintained my personal rank =P

[Alcibiades]

All this betrayal and loyalty talk is complete crap. We are barely acquaintances over the internet in an alliance in a game. It's not like you're my blood brother sworn to fight with me til death do us part. At least some members of the RaRR ally have the good grace and sense of humour to recognize something funny when they see it. It is the (unsurprising) few who are so upset about being 'betrayed'. This is still a game, isn't it?

I totally agree here. It's a war game, hell if I had thought of doing that first I would have gathered a few of the members together and done the same for the sheer thrill of doing so. Its a war game, **** happens =P

The building is the fun part anyway. Im just pissed that I didnt think of it first :D Just was too bad I was too busy working out what score everyone would be on if they planted to ensure I could have maintained my personal rank =P

hell Silence, we have our disagreements (god knows) but you just rocketed up in my esteem (not like you really care i'm sure :P). Are you taking notes Ahead, Zigzag? ;)

Although you must admit, 200m marines was a real *******, you certainly went down fighting :D

[pinpower]

All this betrayal and loyalty talk is complete crap. We are barely acquaintances over the internet in an alliance in a game. It's not like you're my blood brother sworn to fight with me til death do us part. At least some members of the RaRR ally have the good grace and sense of humour to recognize something funny when they see it. It is the (unsurprising) few who are so upset about being 'betrayed'. This is still a game, isn't it?

I totally agree here. It's a war game, hell if I had thought of doing that first I would have gathered a few of the members together and done the same for the sheer thrill of doing so. Its a war game, **** happens =P

The building is the fun part anyway. Im just pissed that I didnt think of it first :D Just was too bad I was too busy working out what score everyone would be on if they planted to ensure I could have maintained my personal rank =P

hell Silence, we have our disagreements (god knows) but you just rocketed up in my esteem (not like you really care i'm sure :P).


Exactly what i was thinking!!!

[Silence]

All this betrayal and loyalty talk is complete crap. We are barely acquaintances over the internet in an alliance in a game. It's not like you're my blood brother sworn to fight with me til death do us part. At least some members of the RaRR ally have the good grace and sense of humour to recognize something funny when they see it. It is the (unsurprising) few who are so upset about being 'betrayed'. This is still a game, isn't it?

I totally agree here. It's a war game, hell if I had thought of doing that first I would have gathered a few of the members together and done the same for the sheer thrill of doing so. Its a war game, **** happens =P

The building is the fun part anyway. Im just pissed that I didnt think of it first :D Just was too bad I was too busy working out what score everyone would be on if they planted to ensure I could have maintained my personal rank =P

hell Silence, we have our disagreements (god knows) but you just rocketed up in my esteem (not like you really care i'm sure :P). Are you taking notes Ahead, Zigzag? ;)

Although you must admit, 200m marines was a real *******, you certainly went down fighting :D

lmao, TL/RPG incoming. 10 trillion in funds, I thought hmmmmzzzz Apache and Marines :D

To be fair I had an epic BR, a little fun. But did feel that pang of stupidity when I didnt see this coming, the clues were quite evident when I re read the alliance logs. Also aGits mail to me in the early hours of this morning =P

Again, I was too concerned with my personal rank. Looks like Im sticking around for a few more rounds to maybe finally acheive that rank 1 spot! :D


*edit* to be fair alci, the disagreements only occur when Im bored and want to irritate someone and I usually know what to say =P

[aGit]

You still going on about this? ReRR backstabing RRR is so yesterday!

[IceOfFire]

All this betrayal and loyalty talk is complete crap. We are barely acquaintances over the internet in an alliance in a game. It's not like you're my blood brother sworn to fight with me til death do us part. At least some members of the RaRR ally have the good grace and sense of humour to recognize something funny when they see it. It is the (unsurprising) few who are so upset about being 'betrayed'. This is still a game, isn't it?

I totally agree here. It's a war game, hell if I had thought of doing that first I would have gathered a few of the members together and done the same for the sheer thrill of doing so. Its a war game, **** happens =P

The building is the fun part anyway. Im just pissed that I didnt think of it first :D Just was too bad I was too busy working out what score everyone would be on if they planted to ensure I could have maintained my personal rank =P

So glad you agree with me Adam! I'm genuinely not that bothered. I had already restarted this round due to boredom! (And that fact i couldn't use Dragons that effectively when everyone teched haha) Makes the round fun and interesting! I still have my love for Polo!!

The only thing i wish...Deleting contacts and pols was little immature, but hey! War is war!!

[Alcibiades]

The only thing i wish...Deleting contacts and pols was little immature, but hey! War is war!!

That's something i disagree with. If we're going to try and kill you, it makes sense to cause as much chaos as possible; that includes deleting pols (although i'm upset the 'Best quotes thread' got killed *again*) and contacts and banning you from the channel. Bought us a nice tick or two of confusion.

oh well, as you say, war is war! :D

[Steve_God]

Somehow this is even more lame and noobish than last round of powerblockers.
ROLF!!!


Fair play to those involved... I knew there had been grumblings from the start, but never thought it would've emerged to a split.

Bravo! :)

[Garrett]

i think everyone will see the round start to pick up... not die off like it was doing...

heck this round is already better than last round as my alliance won the award for most purchased ID's in 1 round.

azzer sent us a nice thank you card for his first house payment ;)
so i doubt he will complain about this round at all.

[Martin]

ho humm,

The story begins... Polo was thinking of leading again but a few members wanted to join Hero so we reluctantly joined him, making sure we had who we wanted with us. I'm not sure at what point it was confirmed but myself, Polo, Kuda and Flying_Blind all said we'd leave if we won the round for ***** and giggles. We then recruited cb1202, Alci and Icy to our agreement. Giving us 7 people in our, self-named Core. Bubbles then joined, we were questionning whether to include him but he was accepted early at a risk, but he proved himself in the lead up.

We did do some sneaky things in the lead up to our 'betrayal'. I had been pushing for us to do this weeks ago but pure apathy caused it to never happen. We then set our LT a week prior and made sure everyone was aware. In the meanwhile we had Cheese buy our HQ and declare war so we were readily engaged with ETA 5 view to jump wagons.


What I find interesting is firstly some of RRR's responses, if I was them I'd be pissed off. The large majority took it very well, and kudos to you for it. I have more respect for a few members there, even though it probably means sod all to most people.

I also am curious as to the ignorant rammblings of those stating it was done to boost individual scores and stand more chance of portal? Do you really think an alliance made up of old friends, who are inactive and uncontactle with only a few 'uber big members' can stand up to a resistance? I expect us to die soon, and I won't give a damn.


I am in no way defending the morality of what we (I) did, but we had a plan and we had to stick to it, when a plan is made you unfortunatly, be it through want or need, or sometimes pure ability are able to manipulate certain things and situations which we (I) did to our favour. Be it aiding alliance members into dying on defence and whatnot.


I play to have fun, not to win. When it gets boring I do silly things which basically f*ck me over but take other people down with me. MOST know this.

I am labelled the architech for this main thing but Polo wishes for the credit and he did do most of this. You have seen me do it before, I doubt I even have the effort to be put in to be in that situation again but I will probably do it again.


*edit* - btw, round is now open enough for anyone to take, that's what we have been after for ages, the majority has what they want for the distaste of the few.

[Twigley]

Can't say i didn't see this coming.

As i said at the first week of the round, i had some people from RRR wanting to join me because they thought the leader was pants.

I am just so glad this has happened to hero after his previous boats in IRC chan, while we all knew that half his alliance disliked him.

Lol i was even mailing RRR and pming their members all round asking why they are with him and they told me good point and it had been discussed to leave.

Now, game on for rank 1 ladies.

- Second to none.

[Melnibone]

It is a way for some of them to finally make it into a rank one ally.

bitter much?

nope not at all, are you?


Only point i have to make on this entire subject aGit joined OF on the understanding he would be leaving at 'some point' for an at the time undisclosed reason he got fat using our help and while in our alliance he acted with honor and was a useful and fun addition to the ally if his change helps him win (which he has done on numerous occassions) good luck to him, if this new alliance fails and a spot opened up with us id personally welcome him back with open arms

he has acted honorably throughout and anyone that says otherwise knows nothing of the facts.... just thought this needed clearing up.

[Dark_Angel]

Maybe you should have sent Fardie/Farvie defence?

rofl.

Well said :P

[Charles007]

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They should have a part of this in the manual. Been with bush ever since ive known of bush.

yeah the player base will take another hit :( Great game... but .... with few players... it gets boring after the first 2 or 3 weeks.

and all u great players out there ? What makes u great? I dont see many "Great People" in bush... i see alot of low life cutthroats... i wonder how others view it? I mean... since u all are talking about it in such a manner. Why not call the kettle black!

[Garrett]

um it's a strategy war game.

if you don't factor possibility of betrayl, then you are naive.

this isn't "Strawberry ShortCake - PattyCake Wars" in which you ever so nicely go to your neighbor and see if you can borrow a wheelbarrow of acres :P

everyone attacks someone else. if you don't, then you don't really play.

technically we are all murderers of each other's staff and stealers of each others acres...

what f*kking highground is everyone exactly looking for here?

[Melnibone]

The only highground in bushtarion is when your so far above everyone else that your untouchable and can piss on everyone when you feel like it... so far no-one has it yet

[Alcibiades]

what f*kking highground is everyone exactly looking for here?

I was looking for the high ground called 'Lulz Campground and Picnic Site'. Do you know where i might find it?

[Garrett]

this subforum brings typical lulz, but we have no campground and riffraff said no picnics :(

[Alcibiades]

this subforum brings typical lulz, but we have no campground and riffraff said no picnics :(

i accept your offer of typical lulz and present you with a petition for the opening of the new Triumvirate's Campground, complete with concubines, fine wines, and the finest 'leaf in the south farthing!'

[Stass]

My 2 cents


Polo was thinking of leading again but a few members wanted to join Hero so we reluctantly joined him, making sure we had who we wanted with us.



As far as i knew it was Enigma and i that wanted to join Hero thus polo and the rest of u joining him... if u were going to do this to us the whole round why ******* bother coming with Hero because of us. You were right not to tell me of your plan though i must admit, even if my loyalties did lie with polo i would have told Hero as this is such a low back stabbing action that u have caused me to lose all respect for all of u (not that i had much for alcibiades in the first place but we know he isnt the brains behind this). The fact that this was planned before the round began really makes it even more slack so at least i can thank alci for letting me know what real ********* you all are.



I also am curious as to the ignorant rammblings of those stating it was done to boost individual scores and stand more chance of portal? Do you really think an alliance made up of old friends, who are inactive and uncontactle with only a few 'uber big members' can stand up to a resistance? I expect us to die soon, and I won't give a damn.


I realise this was not done to boost individual score so don't worry i wont be jumping on that boat. But i do think that u guys can stand up to a resistance (as much as i hope u all get smashed). We all know u have some of the best defensive minds in there so if anyone could u guys would and u know that martin so dont pretend like u expect to die.


I am in no way defending the morality of what we (I) did, but we had a plan and we had to stick to it, when a plan is made you unfortunatly, be it through want or need, or sometimes pure ability are able to manipulate certain things and situations which we (I) did to our favour. Be it aiding alliance members into dying on defence and whatnot.


The way you have gone about this "split" and all the "chaos causing manipulations" you have done has been the final nail in the coffin for me. Sorry Azzer i really do love playing your game, but i have only been here since round 24 and there hasnt been a single round we're i havent been hurt in some way by the people who play it and have often ended up in tears (although not over this... this time i'm just plain angry).

The only time i will come back to the game is if polo, martin, lukey and alcibiades all left. But we all know they are such ********* they probably cant make friends in real life and this is all they have. Better watch your back guys in such a group u never know who will put the knife in it.

[Sir Drumalot]

It sure is fun to watch the few of you that are understandably bitter take this so personally.. You say you're all top level players, and yet youve never been backstabbed before? What has happened to this game?

Im glad to see and be a part of bringing back some life into this game. You may be bitter now, but you will learn from your mistakes and become a better player for it, or you could just quit, either way.

Also id like to thank Martin and the rest of the guys for getting me in and trusting me even thou ive not been on the game for almost 20 rounds. It was fun holding the alliance while the plans were made. Only a few of you worked out I was in there alone, that is also worth a mention.

Cheer up fellas, giving up is only going to hand your enemies the win.

[aGit]

The way you have gone about this "split" and all the "chaos causing manipulations" you have done has been the final nail in the coffin for me. Sorry Azzer i really do love playing your game, but i have only been here since round 24 and there hasnt been a single round we're i havent been hurt in some way by the people who play it and have often ended up in tears (although not over this... this time i'm just plain angry).

The only time i will come back to the game is if polo, martin, lukey and alcibiades all left. But we all know they are such ********* they probably cant make friends in real life and this is all they have. Better watch your back guys in such a group u never know who will put the knife in it.

bitter much?

The people that i saw joining this escapade are all seasoned veterans of this game, of which all, bar 1 or 2, have been in a winning alliance many many times and i understand that not many of us deem being at the top 5-10 very rewarding nor even fun. Siting on buttloads of acres, watching your seeds grow and planting at the slightest indication of a resistance hit gets old really fast. For those of you who said this was done only to further help people to achieve a better portal ranking, you obviously have not been bored at the top for many rounds. As martin said, i do not expect us to survive for long either. The round is open again, and the only ones i see having problems with that are the members of RRR who were left behind. i understand their fealings though.

i for one did not join ReRR to gain huge amount of acres via cloak and dagger tactics and thus secure a portal spot in top10 valuation, i have 5 of those already. Infact i didnt really send for the land at all. I'm content with having some troops and some land to buy more troops to wreck havoc where the game is at, rank 20 and below.

Will i get zeroed at some point? more than likely. Would i rather play at rank <20 or at top10. take a guess.

in the end, all that matters is that the round got an adrenaline injection, anything can happen. and whatever does happen, i welcome with open arms. But i'll be damned if i ever again scorequeen myself for top3 finish (not that i even could with the buggers up there with a huge headstart =D )

[Iamsmart]

But the point is, it doesn't *MATTER* if you did it for those reasons. The fact is that you did it. And you did it with underhand tactics. If you were *REALLY* in it for fun you could have done it much differently and made yourselves look less like a cock.

[aGit]

But the point is, it doesn't *MATTER* if you did it for those reasons. The fact is that you did it. And you did it with underhand tactics. If you were *REALLY* in it for fun you could have done it much differently and made yourselves look less like a cock.

i dont know if you're talking to me, or us in general. I dont really care how im being portrayed in this community. i know who my friends are.

[Iamsmart]

And **** you to everybody else?

[aGit]

And **** you to everybody else?

generalizing much?

People sharing your oppinion seem to be in a minority here.

and no, i dont piss off people just because i can.

[Stass]

But the point is, it doesn't *MATTER* if you did it for those reasons. The fact is that you did it. And you did it with underhand tactics. If you were *REALLY* in it for fun you could have done it much differently and made yourselves look less like a cock.

QFT

if it was for "fun" as u all suggest wouldnt it have been more fun to split up as an agreement and make things more even rather than using all these back stabbing tactics

as Iamsmart said it would make u look less like a bunch of cocks and you have made me ashamed that i called some of u friends. what u have done imo is worse than the powerblock last round

if i ever do change my mind (as i woman i have the right to :P) and come back i would definitely be more likely to join Twigley than u polo at least with him i wouldn't have to check my back for knives all the time.

i dont know if you're talking to me, or us in general. I dont really care how im being portrayed in this community. i know who my friends are.

thought i did to. as i said before watch your back :p

[aGit]

...Twigley than u polo at least with him i wouldn't have to check my back for knives all the time.

Twigley is not such a goody two shoes either =P

i dont know if you're talking to me, or us in general. I dont really care how im being portrayed in this community. i know who my friends are.

thought i did to. as i said before watch your back :p

in the end, all that matters is that the round got an adrenaline injection, anything can happen. and whatever does happen, i welcome with open arms

[Iamsmart]

It wasn't generalizing Agit.

[Charles007]

Ive played with a group of people a long time... and at no time would any of them cut any ones throat. To them that is like unspeakable. Even when they are on the other side, they still dont like attacking them. To them, for the most part, once friends always friends. ( and they only internet friends... no one knows each other in real life. )

Just to reaffirm that there is others in bush that do not adhere to this code of gutless disregard for others people time and energys. No need for u all to respond to this. I understand ur point of view. I had most of u down as gutless cutthroats long ago, not to be trusted under any circumstances!

But there are some that do actually play with Dignity and Honor. We do have a code of "doing our best" .

Agit: recuit some players and with a bigger player base... like 3 k or more, im sure u wont get so bored soon. Instead of runing them out of the game.. making a waste of there time and efforts!!

[Twigley]

*** Prepare for long post ***

Umm ... don't drag me into this fiasco.
I have Never backstabbed anyone in all my rounds played.

I might not be an angel who says yes to everyone on the forums and ingame, but my word is my word.

If i give my world, i stick by it and if you can tell me one time i havn't done that, i'll eat my words.
My word is better, or equal to any top leader since round 25 (My first time leading) and i have led almost all rounds, giving unknown players a chance.

So, this was planned BEFORE the ticks even started?
I don't beleive that because people in RRR asked to join me while s2n were rank 1.

**Prepare for Pissed off / slightly off-topicTwigley rant**

One thing that made me laugh / pissed off was this thing of giving new people a chance to win.

You guys rarely give any newer players a chance.
You recruit the elite every round.
You stick in small groups, flashing how good you guys are around saying you have mad skills, when you are comparing them.

You don't realise it's actually leaders like me who give these newer players chances, and you think you can come with your lame excuses.

On the topic of shake-ups, how about stass - you go take your core and recruit some newer players along with it and build upon it and become a good alliance.

First thing i see when people recruit is "How active / contactable" are you.
URG.

Guys just go make your own cores.

SERIOUSLY, stop moaning about it and just get 4/5 of you and get some newer players and play.

*** End of off-topic rant ***

Stass, ffs you shed tears over this game?
You dont even KNOW what its like to be relied on by 19 other people and have your word be the one that they all respect.
You dont know how it feels when you make a bad call or you have to see members leave.

How do you think i felt in round 26 after an entire month at the start of your alliance mindlessly bashing mine with the rest of the top, and then when we where rank 3, you powerblock with rank 2 and keep bashing.

You made me quit the round, and bail on my alliance because my health was so bad after saying up night after night for weeks defending.

So don't make out that you are some kind of angel.

You have had something bad happen to your alliance, ffs it's happened to me nearly every round i've played but it makes you a stronger person.

Seriously how many times do you see me come here and expect sympothy for someone messing my alliance up in score.
You dont, i come here congratulating them on their wins, even if they mock me afterwards i will be gracious.

R25 my first time leading i won because my team mates kept on pushing each other on - i nearly quit but remembered it was a game and watched people try to backstab while my alliance played its game.
R26 after such a long round, it was your alliance that put me in bad health and made me play a less active round. I never felt so ashamed after laeving my ally because of you and your ally.
R27 my alliance crumbles after playing the game for fun with 40 sa players, but we restarted the round and against the odds played a damn good round.
R28 i watched the alliance i was MO for get taken out, r29 the same with 17 thugs, 3 poms, and r30 i made a mistake of recruiting too many inactive players, taking 20% of the decent playerbase and messing the game up for 60 days.

And ive played many as MO / Coleader before that.
YOU COME THROUGH IT STRONGER SO MAN UP.

You got backstabbed, you know how it feels, so do I.
I get backstabbed alot because people make up BS saying i backstab when i have never done it in my playing time.

These players will be regarded as heroes by some, villains by others.
It has changed the social circles a bit and something like this will happen again.

Like hell it was purely fun aswell.
I cant induce flames, but i know a few motives for it and people who have points to prove to others.

When your members like me more than they do their own leader, in the middle of a war between the two, you know something is SERIOUSLY wrong in that alliance.



Sorry im just annoyed at the BS posted on here sometimes and how people think EVERYTHING is black and white.

/rant.

[harriergirl]

wow... Just finished reading this mess and I do have a few things to add.

I completely believe that the seed of this idea was started before the ticks started, because it was tossed around as a joke in WH frequently. That the active would kick the inactive and blah blah blah.

Round 26 twigs..... you really need to hush. Redtube and Contro both got massed as soon as spies came out, You left redtube and joined Redemption to be part of the powerblock.. ( I might be wrong , please correct me if I am). I won't say that you are a backstabber but you are a snake of another colour, so you have no rights to go off ... serially.

Martin is Martin.... seriously. I love his smarmy ass, but if any of you trust him after the stunts he's pulled in the past... then shame on you. Playing with martin is like playing with Loki, .. a true Chaotic Neutral... what's fun is fun and you can join him on the ride or not....

and last but not least, I'm upset I'm not part of the new RRR - not that I deserve it, but it'd be great fun indeed.

<3 and respect to all
Tana

[Twigley]

You left redtube and joined Redemption to be part of the powerblock.. ( I might be wrong , please correct me if I am).

Ok.
I left RT, played solo for 2 weeks and when Redemption got bashed to rank 4, i joined them to help JJ and a few people in their out as an inactive pom as i didnt want to join Lukey who took over RT.
> Corrected.

You keep saying i have done all these horrible things, i would like a list of them please because i don't think i have at all, it's just been taken for granted i have in the past because i am outspoken.

[harriergirl]

You left redtube and joined Redemption to be part of the powerblock.. ( I might be wrong , please correct me if I am).

Ok.
I left RT, played solo for 2 weeks and when Redemption got bashed to rank 4, i joined them to help JJ and a few people in their out as an inactive pom as i didnt want to join Lukey who took over RT.
> Corrected.

You keep saying i have done all these horrible things, i would like a list of them please because i don't think i have at all, it's just been taken for granted i have in the past because i am outspoken.

This thread isn't about you, it's okay... take a deep breath, move on :)

thanks

[Twigley]

You asked me to correct you, so i did.

Problem?

[Rama]

hahaha I find it funny how this new Rebel RR said it was fair and it was everything for the best of the round and for them to have targets ,etc. If you wanted fights first you should have told the membrs you were leaving RRR that you guys would leave and make other ally and fighte even, put a date or something dont leave and take advantage that noone was online, where is the fun of fighting if you dont give them a chance to defend. Then Now I see a top 10 with way more lands than the old top 10 wich means less targets, less fun + seeds=more money= easier win(you just playing to win yourselfs). I Really dont get it, where you helped the game? (Resistance dont have a chance you need to hold a few days and thats it, easier than before will be)so in conclusion you doing this for the game its BS.

[Alcibiades]

hahaha I find it funny how this new Rebel RR said it was fair and it was everything for the best of the round and for them to have targets ,etc.

No one said it was fair and how it as for the best of the round and for us to have targets. Where are you getting this silly information?

In alll fairness as it happens loads of people got pranked on and sent out not to die, only a handful of people *actually* died in the first attack.

[Iamsmart]

Contrary to what you planned and wanted to happen of course - So that doesn't excuse your action on any level.

Not that you need that, of course.

[Amanala]

You all act as if you've never seen a mutiny before.

[Melnibone]

Emmm since when were things ingame meant to be fair...

You play to win, to have fun or both personally i've won enough times to prefer playing for fun as im sure polo/martin etc etc have

stop getting so angry over an online game thats my job

[Lukey]

[/QUOTE]


The only time i will come back to the game is if polo, martin, lukey and alcibiades all left. But we all know they are such ********* they probably cant make friends in real life and this is all they have. Better watch your back guys in such a group u never know who will put the knife in it.[/QUOTE]

Sorry Stass but where did i come in to these four? I wasnt in your alliance? I was just recruited by Martin/Polo to help out I saw it as some fun and agreed to tag along for the wars. The game was boring at the time for me hitting little alliances like DW and TIR and trying not to be massed by RRR thats no way to play. I wanted some fights and epic BR's so i went for it.

________

Anyway tbh what we did was not all bad we had some fun. We opened the round back up. You guys were so quick to quit! You could of given us a good fight if you had some motivation and decent leader. Don't say "we didnt have contact numbers" coz i know for a fact phantom put them back up for you :). At one point it was 13/20 members even land and score.

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One more thing this scorequeen only want to win thing is utter BS. Most of us have won rounds and most of us love a good fight we are not queens. When resistance comes we will show what were worth. We will go down fighting!

[Melnibone]

But Lukey you are a queen, not a scorequeen but a queen none the less :)

[Changer]

The only time i will come back to the game is if polo, martin, lukey and alcibiades all left. But we all know they are such ********* they probably cant make friends in real life and this is all they have. Better watch your back guys in such a group u never know who will put the knife in it.

Sorry Stass but where did i come in to these four? I wasnt in your alliance? I was just recruited by Martin/Polo to help out I saw it as some fun and agreed to tag along for the wars. The game was boring at the time for me hitting little alliances like DW and TIR and trying not to be massed by RRR thats no way to play. I wanted some fights and epic BR's so i went for it.



Anyway tbh what we did was not all bad we had some fun. We opened the round back up. You guys were so quick to quit! You could of given us a good fight if you had some motivation and decent leader. Don't say "we didnt have contact numbers" coz i know for a fact phantom put them back up for you :). At one point it was 13/20 members even land and score.


One more thing this scorequeen only want to win thing is utter BS. Most of us have won rounds and most of us love a good fight we are not queens. When resistance comes we will show what were worth. We will go down fighting!



Lukey, thb you can just shush. You have queened all round with the knowledge that this might happen. Then when it does happen you try to bullshit the alliance you just left with lies. So please stfu.

[Lukey]

My 2 cents


Polo was thinking of leading again but a few members wanted to join Hero so we reluctantly joined him, making sure we had who we wanted with us.



As far as i knew it was Enigma and i that wanted to join Hero thus polo and the rest of u joining him... if u were going to do this to us the whole round why ******* bother coming with Hero because of us. You were right not to tell me of your plan though i must admit, even if my loyalties did lie with polo i would have told Hero as this is such a low back stabbing action that u have caused me to lose all respect for all of u (not that i had much for alcibiades in the first place but we know he isnt the brains behind this). The fact that this was planned before the round began really makes it even more slack so at least i can thank alci for letting me know what real ********* you all are.



I also am curious as to the ignorant rammblings of those stating it was done to boost individual scores and stand more chance of portal? Do you really think an alliance made up of old friends, who are inactive and uncontactle with only a few 'uber big members' can stand up to a resistance? I expect us to die soon, and I won't give a damn.


I realise this was not done to boost individual score so don't worry i wont be jumping on that boat. But i do think that u guys can stand up to a resistance (as much as i hope u all get smashed). We all know u have some of the best defensive minds in there so if anyone could u guys would and u know that martin so dont pretend like u expect to die.


I am in no way defending the morality of what we (I) did, but we had a plan and we had to stick to it, when a plan is made you unfortunatly, be it through want or need, or sometimes pure ability are able to manipulate certain things and situations which we (I) did to our favour. Be it aiding alliance members into dying on defence and whatnot.


The way you have gone about this "split" and all the "chaos causing manipulations" you have done has been the final nail in the coffin for me. Sorry Azzer i really do love playing your game, but i have only been here since round 24 and there hasnt been a single round we're i havent been hurt in some way by the people who play it and have often ended up in tears (although not over this... this time i'm just plain angry).

The only time i will come back to the game is if polo, martin, lukey and alcibiades all left. But we all know they are such ********* they probably cant make friends in real life and this is all they have. Better watch your back guys in such a group u never know who will put the knife in it.




The only time i will come back to the game is if polo, martin, lukey and alcibiades all left. But we all know they are such ********* they probably cant make friends in real life and this is all they have. Better watch your back guys in such a group u never know who will put the knife in it.

Sorry Stass but where did i come in to these four? I wasnt in your alliance? I was just recruited by Martin/Polo to help out I saw it as some fun and agreed to tag along for the wars. The game was boring at the time for me hitting little alliances like DW and TIR and trying not to be massed by RRR thats no way to play. I wanted some fights and epic BR's so i went for it.



Anyway tbh what we did was not all bad we had some fun. We opened the round back up. You guys were so quick to quit! You could of given us a good fight if you had some motivation and decent leader. Don't say "we didnt have contact numbers" coz i know for a fact phantom put them back up for you :). At one point it was 13/20 members even land and score.


One more thing this scorequeen only want to win thing is utter BS. Most of us have won rounds and most of us love a good fight we are not queens. When resistance comes we will show what were worth. We will go down fighting!



Lukey, thb you can just shush. You have queened all round with the knowledge that this might happen. Then when it does happen you try to bullshit the alliance you just left with lies. So please stfu.

Well i started off solo for the first 10 days of round you was not in my ally for first half of the round. You really know it all? lol. I have always had troops so i did not queen just didnt spend all my funds. I defended and attacked. Also the time i did spend i lost all my troops over night and got told to get on with 2 mins till tick. (I had posted i couldnt get on quick as i was at gf's logging in off my phone)

[lillie]

mmm not sure why i feel the need to post but I am curious or just plain nosey..:P

being a lower n00b here i have no idea of all the political crap up there..the last 2 rounds have certainly proved what a load of bullshit goes on.

tbh brill idea splitting up ..has made the round much more interesting...but not sure it was the right way to go about it.

what I dont understand is the lack of loyalty/trust and why some of you think it is no big deal.

yep its just a game I get that...and it is a war game ...I get that too..

I would have thought that within your own ally loyalty is important..how many peeps hate spies etc. ?

war game = no feelings it seems..

please try not to flame me too much just trying to understand the game better if im gonna continue playing...

and sadly I did get upset when my ally disintegrated..:'(

[Matthew]

...Twigley than u polo at least with him i wouldn't have to check my back for knives all the time.

Twigley is not such a goody two shoes either =P


Over the few rounds i have played with Twigley in-game i have had majorly positive experiences with him as a leader in terms of his motives towards players. I haven't ever felt backstabbed by him.

[Rama]

mmm not sure why i feel the need to post but I am curious or just plain nosey..:P

being a lower n00b here i have no idea of all the political crap up there..the last 2 rounds have certainly proved what a load of bullshit goes on.

tbh brill idea splitting up ..has made the round much more interesting...but not sure it was the right way to go about it.

what I dont understand is the lack of loyalty/trust and why some of you think it is no big deal.

yep its just a game I get that...and it is a war game ...I get that too..

I would have thought that within your own ally loyalty is important..how many peeps hate spies etc. ?

war game = no feelings it seems..

please try not to flame me too much just trying to understand the game better if im gonna continue playing...

and sadly I did get upset when my ally disintegrated..:'(




Yup the top is all like that, you cant imagine what people is capable of doing to win, well you just read about it haha so if you ever get there get prepared for things like that, its not the first time there is betrayel in the top and everything they could say like " they do it to have some fun, they dont care wining, etc" its all BS. Just remember that.

[timtadams]

lol, i just read the whole thread.

I can sympathise for those in RaRR. I would be pretty annoyed if that had happened to me.

But some people need to lighten up. They are taking it a little bit seriously, after all it is just a game.
All this whinging about backstabbing, cowardly tactics, ect ect blah blah its a bit silly really. I mean, if you are going to kill someone, even if for fun, you dont give them a pretty little warning note with flowers. You do it when theyre most vulnerable and pawn their asses. No mercy.

THERE IS NO NICE WAY TO KILL SOMEONE :roll:

So stop having a cry about the tactics they employed.

And about this backstabbing. How well do half the people actually know each other? Exactly, most have never seen or heard each other. And what are the real life consequences of the backstabbing? Maybe the chance to settle in a lower alliance, and chill out a bit more? ie, more sleep maybe? I dunno, but the repercussions couldn't be too life threatening.

But all in all i can see that most people are taking the situation the right way. Good work Silence on not being too bitter.

[Dark_Angel]

THERE IS NO NICE WAY TO KILL SOMEONE :roll:

I always imagined poisoning someone's tea with arsenic to be a fairly nice way to murder someone. (2 drops, 5 sugars :) )

-

Um, on topic, kudos to those who planned this. As I said to Polo, bold move, will be interesting to see what happens next.

[timtadams]

THERE IS NO NICE WAY TO KILL SOMEONE :roll:

I always imagined poisoning someone's tea with arsenic to be a fairly nice way to murder someone. (2 drops, 5 sugars :) )

lol, u win
You can kill someone nicely.


But it still isnt nice :P if you know what i mean

[Charles007]

The ones that did this was just plain scumbags... They have sat here and try to justify there actions, and if u dont accept there lame excuse or reason for killing there "friends" then they ridicule u.

But as i said ... when all the good beer is out of the barrel ... what are u left with ? With what is left here in bush... bottom of the barrel scum!

Yeah its just a game... a game people put 10-18 hours in a day on .... And besides... wtf... who is these people to tell u that u have to act a certain way. The slimbags act the way they do because that is them.... Thats how they are!!!!! U think they did it for the game? The greedy chumps did it for land and more troops... To better there image of being an "elite player" .... that is the reason they have done it over and over and over in bush! Most of the guys involved in this are known for there ways... alll of them.

As it stands now, not many "good" guy left in the game.

U know, u all say this is just a game. But u would be suprised how much of life plays out the same regardless of its application. For example.... in large towns/cities... when the riffraff moves in ... the good people move away. Facts/ways of life are hard to change no matter how u apply them. So dont expect it to be any different in bush! And as it has played out.. it isnt much differnt

[tobapopalos]

Who the **** are you, Charles007? Were you even in RRR? Why do you care so much?

[lillie]

Bit harsh...

I dont know you but im sure gonna listen to any opinion you may have on this,surely he is entitled to the same...

I would have thought the whole playerbase matters....but wtf do I know.

[StormyWaters]

Yeah seriously why the **** do you care who he is tobapopalos, what he says has weight. The fact is if you find out the playerbase of a game you're playing is nothing but a bunch of assholes, you're going to stop playing that game. Hopefully they have better experiences with others before giving up.

Personally I really don't care about what happened since I'm not in any way apart of it. It does seem wrong what they did, but it is a game and they can play it how they want. It should just be a lesson to the others not to trust any of them again.

[Charles007]

Well first off, i love bush. Always have. Azzer has always made it good. Of all the games i play, this one rocks the best.

And this kinda stuff has been killing bush ever since it inception. And now when our player base is very low... super low on active people... these guys have just disrepected a large percentage of our active player base.... and of course they dont want to continue playing bush since this is the way it always plays out. Can u blame them? So u have lost 4-5 active people. Big blow.... more good guys gone and the scum wins again.

If the player base was up around 3-5 k you would never have this problem. Never have to send at the same guy 4-7 times in 1 day. Thats the problem here. And it isnt getting better with these types of actions.

And to me ... i believe in honesty and loyaltiy.... I believe in watching my friends back while they watch mine. And in most of my games where teams are applied, this concept is universal. Its not a rule, but just a unspoken concept.

What has or is happening in bush is akin to a society without law and order... with out the police u would have chaos. What do u have here. :( To me it isnt good.

and just cause ur bold enough to stand up and say what u did, dosnt by any means make it ok. And to me this stuff isnt ok. Dont care how they scream it or ridicule me. It wasnt ok yesterday, it isnt ok today and it wont be ok tomorrow. Underhanded stuff will rot ur base. And in the real world... underhanded deeds get u killed!

[tobapopalos]

OF course he's entitled to his opinion. I just would like to know what his motives are for posting such personal attacks on people he probably doesn't even know. If he was actually in RRR then fair enough, but I don't recognise his name.

So the breakaway RRR are "slimbags" for having the nerve to leave and hit their own alliance. I say good for them. Sure, it's harsh on those they left behind, but it's brilliant for the game (you seem to have forgotten this is a game, not real life). And it's great to see people doing something different than the norm. When has this ever been done before? I'm sure most people expected RRR to accept their win and just sit around growing fat and hitting anyone who came into their range for the rest of the round. But they didn't. They said "**** that ****" and went on a balls-out, Leeroy Jenkins stylee hit on their old alliance. And you have to remember there were still 13 RRR members for them to fight.

All we had to look forward to before was a round of getting bashed every day by the same few players and having very little to play for. Now the round is wide open again. The new RRR are on top, but they certainly aren't in a secure position. They have 7 (I think) people from the old RRR with masses of troops and land, but the rest of the alliance are quite far behind in terms of score. Enmity and STN combined have more land and more score than them.

People who are saying they only did this so they can finish higher up the rankings are talking absolute crap. If they only cared about their portal positions they would've stayed where they were. Splitting your alliance in half, taking on a load of smaller members and charging the other half of your alliance is not the typical scorequeener way.

I know most of the people who split, and I can pretty confidently say they did this for FUN, not for score.

And if the original RRR can take what was given to them without *****ing and moaning, you should be able to as well.

It's not like this game used to be a bastion of morality. Players of wargames have always been *******s. That's why they play wargames. If you can't handle it, gtfo.


And to Stormywaters: I hate the playerbase. They're a bunch of whiney little *****es I would very much like to see killed off by the bubonic plague. That's why I enjoy playing this game. So I can kill them.

[Charles007]

And there is no personal attack... im talking about the actions... and not the people. I dont know them.. this is a game remember ... keep it in that perspective. This is just about there Actions.

I play enough other games that if i dont play bush.. its ok. I can do without the ticks ruling my life, my every waking moment. But i do love to play bush.. and when my friends ask me to play again it is hard to say no. I just hate to see it go this way. thats all. But its a game... they come and go.

[Signer]

Charles did raise a couple of good points, and considering he was largely an enemy of RRR for the time the original alliance was together I'm suprised in his defence of some members.

Being part of those who were kicked I was definitely irritated (partially as I watched it all happen at 6am my time), but not angry or suprised by those involved. Why? There's actually NO benefit left in this game for having a large group of friends. Whereas in the past a large group of friends would get you a lot of defence and was worthwhile, nowadays there is only point in being involved in a core group of players. This has noticeably changed the mentality of some players to play more for themselves or their 'group'. I know there are players who are exceptions to this, either due to them playing for social reasons or those who maintain loyalty to others - but these types of people are becoming a rarity. Those who left RRR were mostly the core of WarHuh, and circumstances last round pushed them close (some ex-WarHuh members have since joined them in ReRR). Even though most people in RRR got along, there was always a noticeable divide.

As the game has evolved, it has definitely become more 'dog eat dog'. Alliances generally force you to be friendly with those around you but unless I know them well I always tend to be wary of who I'm playing with now. I'm not saying this is a bad thing however, you just need to be more cautious these days.

Boredom? It could have been a factor in the split but if you planned this before the round started - you know there are ways you can avoid this even if you are in the top alliance.

Since this happened, I've quickly moved on and hope to be involved in more battles soon :)

[tobapopalos]

And there is no personal attack... im talking about the actions... and not the people.

Then you should remember not to call them scumbags, slimebags, greedy chumps, bottom of the barrel scum, and every other slur you threw at them. If that isn't personal I don't know what is.

And as for telling me to keep it in perspective? Pot, come in pot, you are black! Repeat: You are black! Over and out.

[Alcibiades]

And there is no personal attack... im talking about the actions... and not the people.

Then you should remember not to call them scumbags, slimebags, greedy chumps, bottom of the barrel scum, and every other slur you threw at them. If that isn't personal I don't know what is.

i was about to post words to that effect but will just quote toby instead.

If that's an impersonal attack, i suppose you wouldn't object to me calling you a mindless, lotus eating, hairy knuckle dragging neanderthal slut. Right?

[13:46:33] <Hobbs|FM> "And in the real world... underhanded deeds get u killed! "
[13:46:40] <Hobbs|FM> wow in what 3rd world country does this guy live?
[13:46:51] <Hobbs|FM> I like to think my country isn't ruled by the mob.
[13:47:07] <tobapopabot> psh
[13:47:12] <tobapopabot> you have the european parliament
[13:47:15] <tobapopabot> same difference
[13:47:28] <Hobbs|FM> I haven't been killed by people of the EU parliament lately.

I always love the 'real life' arguments. They're the bestest argaments EVAR!1111!1!!!111!!11

[StormyWaters]

OF course he's entitled to his opinion. I just would like to
And to Stormywaters: I hate the playerbase. They're a bunch of whiney little *****es I would very much like to see killed off by the bubonic plague. That's why I enjoy playing this game. So I can kill them.

Well then, have fun at it lol.

[Martin]

I'm not going to quote anyone directly as I'd rather keep it general, one to avoid personal attacks and also as I'm too lazy to copy and paste quotes and make this look pretty.

Lots of people seem to be purely against how we went about it, not what we actually did? (Unless I have misinterpreted a lot of posts). We are not sticking up for what we did, what we did was nasty and malicious.
The original plan was that we would split after winning (as we were fairly confident we could win without many issues). The plan was a constant thing which we were always going to do. Opportunities then arose to do what we did, all be it allowing certain people to kill themselves, deleting pols etc.

What I ask of people to please relate to the situation, not just look at it as "Ally mates, f**ked over their mates!! B4STARDS!". I take most of the credit and abuse for the malcious behaviour but it was purely opportunistic.


Certain people in RRR contributed a vast amount to the success of the alliance, a fair number of which are now with little land and troops (Silence and Signer primarily) so we did not get to rank 1 by ourselves so we did rely on our alliance as a team. I don't think anyone could contest that a large amount of the people who left put in a damn lot of work to get us all up there, so again do not think we coasted on others and then f**ked them over to get on top.

Lastly, and probably the most important thing for me was that the aim for me personally was not to win, it is not to get a higher rank in portal. Don't read this as I me wanting to die, but it was not the main aim. Others in the group may have done it but we knew before we sent most of these guys could get online, we knew they could hurt us, we knew we'd lose a lot and that other alliances would probably leap on us soon. The sweep for land worked well and was effective so we are still ahead on score. Those who have played with myself and other members who left with me know that score is not a main concern, it's to do something fun and get our e-penis' noticed by the hoards.

[harriergirl]

it's to do something fun and get our e-penis' noticed by the hoards.
http://barkriverknives.com/albums/Everett/epenis.jpg


<3 and respect , ( even if there will never be implicit trust)
Tana

[Alcibiades]

tana ftw! :D

[Garrett]

signer brings up a very good point. with a smaller playerbase, knowing everyone is much more of a detriment.

sure you don't want people you are friendly with to attack you... but attacking is the GAME. without attacking, we have no game. even the bots attack :/

but due to the rules of this game/eula/azzer the 'betrayl' is the only way this sort of thing works...

i did have an lol as I remembered back to trfc or some earlier alliance with martin... pretty sure trfc... we were way up and bored and we talked openly of splitting up the group and having a war.

after we killed each other and declared a winner, we were going to of course join back up for the rest of the round. we had team captains picked out (i think martin and i or polo and martin... something like that) and we were going to pick teams 1 at a time.. coin flip for who goes first, whatever, whatever...

but when martin went to see if this was a breach, Azzer said that we could war each other and encouraged us to do so but would penalize heavily/lock/generally muller us if we got back together as 1 alliance, even though it wasn't really mutual agreement other than we were going to see who could 0 who.

so the idea has been around for ages and unfortunately it can only be done with a permanent schism between the initial group. blame the game not the players ;)

[harriergirl]

but when martin went to see if this was a breach, Azzer said that we could war each other and encouraged us to do so but would penalize heavily/lock/generally muller us if we got back together as 1 alliance, even though it wasn't really mutual agreement other than we were going to see who could 0 who.

so the idea has been around for ages and unfortunately it can only be done with a permanent schism between the initial group. blame the game not the players ;)

However, ( not to defend azzer ) this was the 1st or 2nd round of AGE 4, the reason we wanted to spit up and war, was to gain effectiveness and points, because WS were starving us out. So .... it was a little different but your point is still valid...

[Alcibiades]

since this post has nothing to do with the Resistance, i moved it of my own accord from the Resist thread to here. No need to clog up twigley's thread of valiant efforts with stupid retaliatory feuding....


Honestly, I think the new RRR deserves the win after what they pulled off.

Rofl. What exactly did they pull off? They killed half an uncontactable ally when none of the members were online?

Don't lie about being uncontactable. That's just not accurate. Loads of you got pranked on when we launched our attack since phantom had the contact list saved, and enigma has plenty of numbers in his phone.

Don't make yourself out to be complete martyrs because that is a bit of a mis representation of the facts.

Admittedly you weren't on *at* the time but that's because we picked the moment when our targets were least inactive.

There were plenty of posts earlier in this round about how 'contactable' we are so don't even dare pull the 'inactive ally' card now. That's just pure bullshit.

Phantom didn't post up the contact info for a good few ticks later, and there was then one person there to prank half an alliance and try to figure out what was going on. You hit us when you knew two people were on holiday and therefore uncontactable as well.

I would much rather have Enigma/stass in my alliance than you, even before this whole escapade. So stop being a prick as always and flaming stass as she has done NOTHING wrong this round. stass >>>>>>> you in terms of playing ability and as a person. End of.


P.S. GL to the resistance!

Lern 2 reed!

Phantom refreshed literally the tick we left/sent so it's his fault for not posting the info he had. There are plenty of times this round where we only had 1 person to prank on a bunch of people. Stop making yourselves out to look like a bunch of self sacrificing martyrs. it's just not accurate. We are, admittedly, assholes, but to make yourselves out like white garbed martyrs is just pure wrong.

So be it, if you'd rather have/have had Stass/Enigma instead of me that's fine. I don't have any particular need for more 'friends' on this game, nor am i desperately looking for respect from the majority of the community. I'm a prick to those who behave like pricks to me. Prior to yesterday when i was hte subject of a rather long, rambling and venomous personal assult did i begin to behave 'like a prick.' I quite liked stass, and still like enigma; however I don't feel much responsibility to those who insult me gratuitously. I freely admit to being called an asshole; i've never pretended to be otherwise but to be called one *before* the events of yesterday is just a joke. She did nothing wrong this round, her mistake was to come on her and flame me personally for no apparent reason.

The irony of you calling *anyone* out on their behaviour is just hilarious. You have set one of the worst behavioural examples ingame and on these forums that i have ever witnessed so i will not put up with being lectured by such a creature as you on behaviour of all things.

If you can manage to get your grey matter to function long enough to read correctly you will understand that she began the gratuitous flaming. I am not saying i'm an angel and completely undeserving of flaming, but you of all people would understand that if one is being flamed, they have the god granted right of being able to defend themselves and throw a bit of flame back at their attacker. Either you're a hypocrite, an ignoramus, illiterate or a combination of all of the above. Don't start a flame war, and then object when i use your own weapons and manners against you (albeit in a vastly superior, literate and intelligent manner).

Stass is most likely a better player than i am, i have never made pretences of being anything other than a n00b; and as for her being a better person, that's a debatable subject and more or less irrelevant to the gameplay.

You can call me a despicable, low, dastardly, evil ******* all you want for my behaviour ingame but you really should leave it there; as should we all. If you feel so strongly about it, kill me ingame, or get your revenge elsewhere. Whining about it on forums is just hilarious and provides me with endless amounts of inter-tick entertainment.

Alci 1 - Ahead 0

[Stass]

I know i said i wouldn't post again but here i am, as i felt it necessary to post again now that i have calmed down and see things a little more clearly

Firstly i would like to apologise to Alcibiades. Sorry, i should not have let a slight personalty clash come out like that. I have felt in the past that you have gone to far with giving ppl **** as a joke in irc etc but this is likely to be my flaw not yours as everyone now knows how sensitive i am. I did not think of u as a bad person before this event so sorry for letting my anger get the best of me and saying things i truly didnt mean.

Secondly Twigley, you are right i dont know all the pressures of being a leader etc. my over sensitivity is what has caused me to choose never to be leader because i know i could not hold an ally together. My reference to you was partially because Polo doesnt like you (actually i dont know what Polo thinks but he appears not to like u in forums etc) but mostly because you proved last round that you are no backstabber. Even when half the player base tries to push u to be one you still are not a backstabber. I am sorry that i brought you into this as it was not necessary.

Lukey its not from this round that i mentioned you. It is because of the fact that every alliance i have been in with u you have left and the times u pretended to be my friend only to get information out of me about the alliance i was in. I know this is seen as part of the game but not everybody uses those tactics. I guess really i only have myself to blame for being so naive and perhaps i need to stop being so trusting in ppl i have never even met.

I stand by my decision to leave bush (though may come back as an inactive solo in a few rounds who knows) and i still believe this was not a nice thing to do (as u all seem to admit anyway). As Alci said i am too sensitive for this game and maybe i do need to learn how to take a step back and treat it as that, a game.

[Melnibone]

Lukey's actually a really good kid just dont tell him anything he can use against you ingame as while hes basically a nice guy hes ultra competitive.

[Lordie]

I know i said i wouldn't post again but here i am, as i felt it necessary to post again now that i have calmed down and see things a little more clearly

Firstly i would like to apologise to Alcibiades. Sorry, i should not have let a slight personalty clash come out like that. I have felt in the past that you have gone to far with giving ppl **** as a joke in irc etc but this is likely to be my flaw not yours as everyone now knows how sensitive i am. I did not think of u as a bad person before this event so sorry for letting my anger get the best of me and saying things i truly didnt mean.

Secondly Twigley, you are right i dont know all the pressures of being a leader etc. my over sensitivity is what has caused me to choose never to be leader because i know i could not hold an ally together. My reference to you was partially because Polo doesnt like you (actually i dont know what Polo thinks but he appears not to like u in forums etc) but mostly because you proved last round that you are no backstabber. Even when half the player base tries to push u to be one you still are not a backstabber. I am sorry that i brought you into this as it was not necessary.

Lukey its not from this round that i mentioned you. It is because of the fact that every alliance i have been in with u you have left and the times u pretended to be my friend only to get information out of me about the alliance i was in. I know this is seen as part of the game but not everybody uses those tactics. I guess really i only have myself to blame for being so naive and perhaps i need to stop being so trusting in ppl i have never even met.

I stand by my decision to leave bush (though may come back as an inactive solo in a few rounds who knows) and i still believe this was not a nice thing to do (as u all seem to admit anyway). As Alci said i am too sensitive for this game and maybe i do need to learn how to take a step back and treat it as that, a game.

Stass - don't be sorry. The statement, "It is just a game" is such an unfounded statement. Players at the top, especially you and Enigma put in so much effort. This act makes it so much more than merely 'a game', it's part of your life, as sad as that may sound.

So don't be sorry - you had every right to be angry. You're a great person, and deserve to be able to stand up for yourself. :)

All the best with life without Bush for a few rounds,

Lordie.

[Ogluk]

awwww i go away on holiday for a week, and come back and have missed the most interesting bit of the round :(

sucks :(

thats top 10 activity for first month of the round wasted then :<

[Garrett]

Lukey's actually a really good kid just dont tell him anything he can use against you ingame as while hes basically a nice guy hes ultra competitive.

it's that ultra competitive that causes him to be retarded and go off on people over the wrong stuff :P

in game, he's an arm's length transaction at best.

[Lukey]

Name of thread: Oh! What's Occuring? (RRR vs RRR...)

Topic: Lukey

Solution: Stop talking about me and talk about thread i do not care what you think of me Garrett i am normally rather pleasent to you bare a few times and the last time was when i was like 14 10 million rounds back :P <333

x

[Sir Drumalot]

Some of you have taken this very harsh, and although I think its unwise to get so personally invested in something so trivial, I can understand that it will sting for a while.

Everyone in this alliance has been backstabbed at one point in time, so I have a clear idea of how angry you must be. Understand though, that this was in no way a personal vendetta for anything anyone did or said over the round. Some people made it easier, but it was primarily about oppertunity.

We can not be expected to do things a certain way, besides following the rules of the game. Things in this game of war are not always going to be seen as honourable, but that makes them no less real. Sometimes friends are up against friends, as long as you dont let it become personal it'll always be fun.

If you feel the need to call us cheats and what have you, by all means get it out. It was never about winning, it was always about spicing up a dull round. This kind of thing has not been done since round 6, and I will not feel regret for taking every oppertunity given to me. Should spys gathering intel feel guilty?

Politics is a major part of Bushtarion, if you cant handle the ups and downs you're not going to be happy playing at the top level.. You win some, you lose some.

[Alcibiades]

Firstly i would like to apologise to Alcibiades. [snip]

Apology accepted, my behaviour was certainly less than charming this round and for that I do offer an apology. Moving on... forums is no longer the place for the kind of conversation this thread has turned to, so i've taken the liberty of mailing you instead.

[NoobCake]

Well, I was bored sitting at the airport waiting for my delayed plane and thought i would check in. Turns out this whole RRR betraying other RRR people became a bigger deal than I thought!

As I previously stated, I finally got the job I have been looking to get for a long time and get a chance to to what i want so I began getting things ready earlier in the week to give Ahead my spot as leader and basically quitting for good as of yesterday (sunday).

I came back from being out with a couple of friends to 13/20 in the alliance. I knew what happened as soon as I saw it, as it was more than expected. I had already checked out for the round so I could do nothing but laugh, and feel bad for the others that were betrayed. Splitting after you had already won the round is something I am all for, and I know how boring it is to sit there for weeks with nothing to do...so for that i dont blame anyone who left. The deleting pols, and the overview, and trying to **** the other people over WAS a bit shameful however, and did show a large lack of character. (a few of the people did say they had no idea that it was being done that way and shared their apologies and openly agreed that those actions were shameful and pathetic so dont group them all in together)

I was not and I am still not mad or have bad feelings towards polo/martin, as to me this is a game, and was not the best round for me to lead with all of the **** that came up with work and new jobs and the random days out of town...its a wonder they didnt do a full on mutiny earlier than that!!


All in all, do what you can to have a fun round, I apologize to those who I led...I really had no idea my life and job was gonna go that direction before the round started, keep fighting and I will check in now and then on irc to chat with people, but highly doubt I will ever have time to play the game again!

Time to fly...San Diego here I come!!

[Twigley]

Stop saying RRR had won the round it wasnt even 50% the way through the round.

Yes, RRR would probally have won if all the members where not who they are personality wise.
RRaR destroyed itself and thus wasn't the winning alliance.
Was fairly obvious it would happen with you leading Hero, and people wanting to leave just days into the round.

GL with your new job tho hope that goes well.

[BlackWolf]

The ones that did this was just plain scumbags... They have sat here and try to justify there actions, and if u dont accept there lame excuse or reason for killing there "friends" then they ridicule u.

But as i said ... when all the good beer is out of the barrel ... what are u left with ? With what is left here in bush... bottom of the barrel scum!

Yeah its just a game... a game people put 10-18 hours in a day on .... And besides... wtf... who is these people to tell u that u have to act a certain way. The slimbags act the way they do because that is them.... Thats how they are!!!!! U think they did it for the game? The greedy chumps did it for land and more troops... To better there image of being an "elite player" .... that is the reason they have done it over and over and over in bush! Most of the guys involved in this are known for there ways... alll of them.

As it stands now, not many "good" guy left in the game.

U know, u all say this is just a game. But u would be suprised how much of life plays out the same regardless of its application. For example.... in large towns/cities... when the riffraff moves in ... the good people move away. Facts/ways of life are hard to change no matter how u apply them. So dont expect it to be any different in bush! And as it has played out.. it isnt much differnt
Well first off, i love bush. Always have. Azzer has always made it good. Of all the games i play, this one rocks the best.

And this kinda stuff has been killing bush ever since it inception. And now when our player base is very low... super low on active people... these guys have just disrepected a large percentage of our active player base.... and of course they dont want to continue playing bush since this is the way it always plays out. Can u blame them? So u have lost 4-5 active people. Big blow.... more good guys gone and the scum wins again.

If the player base was up around 3-5 k you would never have this problem. Never have to send at the same guy 4-7 times in 1 day. Thats the problem here. And it isnt getting better with these types of actions.

And to me ... i believe in honesty and loyaltiy.... I believe in watching my friends back while they watch mine. And in most of my games where teams are applied, this concept is universal. Its not a rule, but just a unspoken concept.

What has or is happening in bush is akin to a society without law and order... with out the police u would have chaos. What do u have here. :( To me it isnt good.

and just cause ur bold enough to stand up and say what u did, dosnt by any means make it ok. And to me this stuff isnt ok. Dont care how they scream it or ridicule me. It wasnt ok yesterday, it isnt ok today and it wont be ok tomorrow. Underhanded stuff will rot ur base. And in the real world... underhanded deeds get u killed!
I suggest we remove whole player ranks for some 10 rounds and remove ability to play as solo... you shall see how big impact it would give for this game with words like loyality, trying together, friendship, communities etc.

[Twigley]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c222/twigleyO_o/Rowan.jpg

[f0xx]

Very funny Twigley...

[Iamsmart]

Wait...Did they JUST figure that out? :-O

Funny though :P

[Polo]

Wait...Did they JUST figure that out? :-O

Funny though :P

Yeah, getting a spy to give out our phone numbers and pranking some of us in the middle of the night is hilarious!

[Podunk]

Wait...Did they JUST figure that out? :-O

Funny though :P

Yeah, getting a spy to give out our phone numbers and pranking some of us in the middle of the night is hilarious!

Are you serious? :|

Last time I checked that was a perm-ban offense.

[Polo]

Wait...Did they JUST figure that out? :-O

Funny though :P

Yeah, getting a spy to give out our phone numbers and pranking some of us in the middle of the night is hilarious!

Are you serious? :|

Last time I checked that was a perm-ban offense.

Yes, I am. Azzer will be notified as soon as he actually comes online. :P

[Dark_Angel]

Serious situation, but that is a damn funny pic :P

[Iamsmart]

Wait...Did they JUST figure that out? :-O

Funny though :P

Yeah, getting a spy to give out our phone numbers and pranking some of us in the middle of the night is hilarious!

I'd go back to the other thread and just quote it - But this won't take long. ^ That, didn't happen.

[Rowan]

Iamsmart is actually smart...

[Garrett]

no wai!