Fail. | R31

[Garrett]

Look I had sent a fairly long post explaining my intentions to the HQ of yours, 2nd20 and Enmity. It appears by the questions I received that they mail did not go through as intended.

here is the short short version

With DA gone fail is rebuilding and in disarray, they are outside of our 40% range, therefore are not useful to the resistance I need to have. We are bored, we need the acres, and we are going to use these new acres to launch a proper resistance to RRR.

We're heavy armour and anti armour and so guerilla tactics and hit and fade do not work as effectively for my setup which means that it doesn't work for as big as RRR is if I'm going to participate. I have a different strategy that I want to talk over with the other leaders. Obviously not going to post that strategy here. I did in the Ally mail or at least touched on it.

So believe me or not. I believe you when you say you feel backstabbed or betrayed but the facts is that it's taken over a week to get rolling on RRR. We have almost nothing else in range unless we want to mass bash OF with everyone else and that doesn't sit well.

I have to get my war machine moving/disband/or wait for someone to kill me. As most of you know, I only have the patience for battle.

[Garrett]

posting so more fail members can see. because I'm not mad at them. I'm not mad at fail. I have to simply play the game for me and my ally.

Private Sent to: Fail. alliance HQ Thu 04th Jun, 2009. 18:12:28 GMT
Subject: re:

*****
Fail. alliance HQ wrote:
Meh, do what you will i guess. But considering we have reshuffled members, had a couple restart just for the purpose of resisting i think its pretty harsh to turn on us when you know (because of the agreement) that we are weaker than we would normally be.

Good luck to you, but i think it sucks that we wont be part of the resistance anymore...as thats what we've been building up to doing.
*****

I know. But honestly it comes down to this

a) continue to wait. let my members become even MORE disgruntled than they have been this past week. be completely useless

or

b) take the initiative. have a happier alliance.


It was painful to make because I was hoping the resistance would work as is, but really the choice is kinda clear cut for me no matter my personal feelings. I feel that the resistance needs a kick in the butt and a kick into high gear.

[Tombi]

Yeah Garrett i see your point although i think it is slightly against logic because yes we have taken a while to get back on our feet and just when we thought we had another a big member left putting us back a few days, and although you outsize us quite significantly we will fight and probably take quite losses you will too no doubt being a double blow for the resistance.

[Garrett]

the phrase 'we just got set back a few days' do that a few more times and we're into the last weeks of the round and still have done nothing.

i'm just trying to shake it up. hate me, understand me, ignore me, love me. my alliance comes first as I am not a leader if everyone behind me stops following.

[Tombi]

I illustrate my point with the first wave


Distracted: 12,494,584 [£33,785,601,200] friendlies distracted.
Died: 51,565 [£216,893,600] friendlies dead.

You gained 0 effectiveness.

Distracted: 101,458,294 [£1,513,570,289,800] enemies distracted.
Died: 5,512,883 [£114,726,149,700] friendlies dead.

You gained 0 effectiveness.


Distracted: 197,324,527 [£1,472,967,189,800] enemies distracted.
Disabled: 428,556 [£25,204,366,000] enemies disabled.
Died: 63,149,267 [£1,947,016,261,000] enemies dead. 79,199,682 [£1,810,703,939,100] friendlies dead.
Bribed: 24,482 [£1,416,150,000] enemies bribed.
Converted: 1,687 [£26,992,000] enemies converted.


we did lose 1kish land but overall but that was 1 big hit for the resistance effort just for 1k land...

[Dark_Angel]

And so the dissolution of the resistance begins.

Guess grats really are in order for RRR.

[TaO]

Edit out

[MattM]

The round has hardly been ruined just because RRR will win. The word 'tunnel-visioned' along with 'idiot' comes to mind.

[Garrett]

o.O a war/attack/whatever is decided in the first wave?

when was this update made public? news to me. at any rate, shame on me for playing the game. I singlehandedly gave RRR the round because the resistance was working *sooooo* hard.

TIK TAK! OK!

[Podunk]

You realize that when the 'resistance' hit OF they lost troops too. Don't play innocent here. You can't blame one alliance for ruining the resistance which was never going to happen anyways.

When DA decided it'd be best to hit OF that was when the resistance was over.

[CLem]

RRR has won this round for sure now

Congrats to RRR, keeping down the resistance for a week has granted you the victory of this round.

Shame on you Garret, you knew from the start this "backstab" was gonna fail, and yet you continue it.

This round has been ruined by Ailihphilia, special thanks to Garret for wasting 2 alliances for the resistance.

Cant deny it Garret, you made a wise choice to try and take acres from Fail. Shame it didnt work out your way.

can people stop putting "resistance" as the top agenda for once?

The so call "resistance" had been formed for over a week and what have they achieved?? Nothing spectecular but bashed a rank 5 alliance as a collective bunch and hitting whoever that isn't in an the "resistance" whilst they get fat and "store troops".

I am positive that this "resistance" has ruined the round for many 2nd tier alliance so TaO you can stfu about saying Aili ruining the round.

[Tombi]

o.O a war/attack/whatever is decided in the first wave?

when was this update made public? news to me. at any rate, shame on me for playing the game. I singlehandedly gave RRR the round because the resistance was working *sooooo* hard.

TIK TAK! OK!

No your self pitying there Garrett, but if this stops and we work together i believe there is a better chance of RRR being taken down rather than the fight thats going on inside at the moment, at first it was 'Take down OF' but they continue to stand well and now its 'Take down fail' but that'll only delay the resistance in the process and make RRR grow bigger and bigger.

[Dark_Angel]

You realize that when the 'resistance' hit OF they lost troops too. Don't play innocent here. You can't blame one alliance for ruining the resistance which was never going to happen anyways.

When DA decided it'd be best to hit OF that was when the resistance was over.

The resistance alliances were growing/readying themselves for an attack. That weren't going to happen in days, it was going to happen in weeks...

There would have been a point when alliance resistance alliances said "Yeah - we've got the troops we need for the job now".

Sadly it appears Ail reached that point first - but have changed their agenda :/

But all's fair, n' all that :P

[harriergirl]

No your self pitying there Garrett, but if this stops and we work together i believe there is a better chance of RRR being taken down rather than the fight thats going on inside at the moment, at first it was 'Take down OF' but they continue to stand well and now its 'Take down fail' but that'll only delay the resistance in the process and make RRR grow bigger and bigger.

:popcorn: YOU GIVE ME TEH LULZ

[Podunk]

o.O a war/attack/whatever is decided in the first wave?

when was this update made public? news to me. at any rate, shame on me for playing the game. I singlehandedly gave RRR the round because the resistance was working *sooooo* hard.

TIK TAK! OK!

No your self pitying there Garrett, but if this stops and we work together i believe there is a better chance of RRR being taken down rather than the fight thats going on inside at the moment, at first it was 'Take down OF' but they continue to stand well and now its 'Take down fail' but that'll only delay the resistance in the process and make RRR grow bigger and bigger.

Apparently you have missed my post here http://www.bushtarion.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2694

The second the resistance switched to hitting OF is the moment RRR won the round.

[Garrett]

it's sometimes not about troop count. it's about initiative, drive, desire.

never had I said my alliance is the best. as leader i know where our strengths and weaknesses are. i know that i'm probably going to get severe repercussions and I never had any illusions that my alliance would finish high.

this attack is not about finishing high. it's about attacking. it's about getting my people motivated. it's about building momentum.

[Steve_God]

Died: 63,149,267 [£1,947,016,261,000] enemies dead. 79,199,682 [£1,810,703,939,100] friendlies dead.
That's nearly 4 TRILLION of resistance troops down the pan...


Garrett = Fail. ;)

[Dark_Angel]

Died: 63,149,267 [£1,947,016,261,000] enemies dead. 79,199,682 [£1,810,703,939,100] friendlies dead.That's nearly 4 TRILLION of resistance troops down the pan...


Garrett = Fail. ;)


Lemme just try predict the collective response of RRR at this stage:

"woop".

[Garrett]

resistance troops gathering dust are not resistance troops. i know you are angry. i forgive your emotional outburst.

i honestly would feel the same way in your shoes. being a leader IS difficult. sometimes you gotta make hard choices. it wasn't my first option, but seemed like my best. so i took it.

[tobapopalos]

Insurance takes away 35% of those losses, and with our new land we can buy more troops and then use them to actually attack RRR (a fairly important point of resisting is actually hitting rank 1. Something you people seem to have forgotten recently).

And the resistance has no need for 4 tril troops when the resistance doesn't ****ing do anything WITH those troops.

This was the result of an apathetic resistance which was more concerned about hitting OF and SNAPing everybody in sight rather than hitting RRR.


PS: Putting something in large print does not increase it's probability of being true. It's just crap...bigger.

[Polo]

Died: 63,149,267 [£1,947,016,261,000] enemies dead. 79,199,682 [£1,810,703,939,100] friendlies dead.That's nearly 4 TRILLION of resistance troops down the pan...


Garrett = Fail. ;)


Lemme just try predict the collective response of RRR at this stage:

"woop".

Actually, it's more like: "ffs! Now it's gonna take them ages to grow into range".

[Dark_Angel]

resistance troops gathering dust are not resistance troops. i know you are angry. i forgive your emotional outburst.

i honestly would feel the same way in your shoes. being a leader IS difficult. sometimes you gotta make hard choices. it wasn't my first option, but seemed like my best. so i took it.

It was in your best interests to maintain that snap Garrett.. at least for a time.

Now its basically gone, you've to concern yourself with the very-close Enmity/S2N, who I imagine will maintain their sNap to block ranks 2-3 (for a time).

I'll be surprised if that doesnt happen..

[Podunk]

Besides what use is Fail. to the resistance with RRR being armor heavy and Fail not having armor killers.

[lavadog]

Resistance troops gathering dust are better than dead resistance troops tho garret ;)

The resistance doesn't seem like it will take off, and I'm saying this from a totally neutral point of view as I'm solo and have no ties in both camps. From the outside, the resistance doesn't look like a cohesive bunch. That has been proven by ail not taking part in the OF bashing and now by ail attacking fail.

It doesn't look very good, but I hope you guys can prove me wrong by actually doing some hits and posting br's :D

[Nitrous]

insurance takes away 35% of those losses, and with our new land we can buy more troops and then use them to actually attack rrr (a fairly important point of resisting is actually hitting rank 1. Something you people seem to have forgotten recently).

And the resistance has no need for 4 tril troops when the resistance doesn't ****ing do anything with those troops.

This was the result of an apathetic resistance which was more concerned about hitting of and snaping everybody in sight rather than hitting rrr.


Ps: Putting something in large print does not increase it's probability of being true. It's just crap...bigger.

qft!

[Dark_Angel]

resistance troops gathering dust are not resistance troops. i know you are angry. i forgive your emotional outburst.

i honestly would feel the same way in your shoes. being a leader IS difficult. sometimes you gotta make hard choices. it wasn't my first option, but seemed like my best. so i took it.

It was in your best interests to maintain that snap Garrett.. at least for a time.

Now its basically gone, you've to concern yourself with the very-close Enmity/S2N, who I imagine will maintain their sNap to block ranks 2-3 (for a time).

I'll be surprised if that doesnt happen..

And the resistance has no need for 4 tril troops when the resistance doesn't ****ing do anything WITH those troops.

This was the result of an apathetic resistance which was more concerned about hitting OF and SNAPing everybody in sight rather than hitting RRR.



Maybe put your efforts into organising the resistance, then? Instead of backstabbing a fellow resistance alliance?

A lot of you have moaned on the forums/on IRC, that you've done this because the resistance was a placid and poor excuse for an anti-rank 1 establishment.

Why didn't you do something about it? Garrett could have very easily planned. The choice was made, instead, to backstab.

[Steve_God]

resistance troops gathering dust are not resistance troops. i know you are angry. i forgive your emotional outburst.

i honestly would feel the same way in your shoes. being a leader IS difficult. sometimes you gotta make hard choices. it wasn't my first option, but seemed like my best. so i took it.
Garrett - I want to call you an idiot... but I won't for fear of getting a trolling/flaming warning or something :P

If you wanted to remove the dust off everyones troops, all you needed to do was create a resistance channel, set launch times roughly a day in advance to allow time for people to re-arrange their day around the attacks, and repeat.
It's worked in the past, and it would work now given enough equal damage on both sides over each set of attacks.

Pi**ing off other partners against the resistance is only going to cause resentment against yourself, and encourage us to think about putting our 'new found energy' into resisting against you - would be a good reason to given, to quote yourself - "[we] are outside of our 40% range".

[tobapopalos]

Maybe put your efforts into organising the resistance, then? Instead of backstabbing a fellow resistance alliance?

A lot of you have moaned on the forums/on IRC, that you've done this because the resistance was a placid and poor excuse for an anti-rank 1 establishment.

Why didn't you do something about it? Garrett could have very easily planned. The choice was made, instead, to backstab.

I do as I am told. I am just a pawn to be weilded whenever my lord sees fit.

And I really don't think we're the ones that are moaning :P

[Garrett]

well you did. cuz i saw the post before the ninja edit hence my post.

i cannot be on IRC during euro day. no one listens when i'm on irc at night. the first day we got together when 2nd20 were on the fence, i was pushing JJ with suggestions and stuff we could do. when twigley orginally posted the sit and wait plan, both JJ and I said that we were already too much in range and wasn't going to sit well with our 'short attention span theaters'.

but here we are a week later, sitting and waiting. i said from the beginning this isn't the kind of war i can wage well.

Right, wrong can always be debated. It was either start moving or lose my peeps as I've already stated. As you can see all my ally mates that posted seem pretty passionate about the subject. I have to play to their strengths.

It's a matter of different philosophies. I've explained my reasoning from the start.

[harriergirl]

Actually everytime Ail put forth a resistance plan it was ignored and answered with " NO LETS WAIT LONGER AND SNAP"

[Hobbezak]

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/30/poms.jpg

I made that at eta 5. It's atf2 and I get guru defence. :(
Nice one Minifreak, original. :'(

[ZigZag]

Let me know when this resistance thing is going to start I would not mind taking part in it

[BuBbLeS]

ty Garrett :D

[Garrett]

Now its basically gone, you've to concern yourself with the very-close Enmity/S2N, who I imagine will maintain their sNap to block ranks 2-3 (for a time).

I'll be surprised if that doesnt happen..

Don't think that I didn't think about this long and hard.

Hell I've had a week. :/

They will either see the merit in my plan(s), or not. What they do from here is up to them. I fault them not for their choices as they are here to play the game too.

If we get attacked (which you know we get RRR incs as well), we get attacked. I'm surprised we're 3rd. I figured we'd be 15th this round. I make plans and choices based off my groups activities and their needs. I was vocal at the start. Then I patiently waited for the OF asshattery to be over. We did not immediately launch into RRR. I have very little in the way of stealth rushes especially since they (the resistance) only wanted SA's to start.

So you can say I've done nothing, but it's not true. You can say I backstabbed, but actually I sent the AllyHQ mail (if it went through) before the attacks started. I sent it to 3 alliances. The one being attacked and the 2 other major alliances. I didn't ask for their help. I revealed a plan. So I understand the feelings of betrayl as I definitely would be feeling the same way, but I was upfront about it.

I didn't have to say anything. I definitely didn't need to come here and post the thread first. I did it out of respect for my fellow gamers.

Believe me or not. Think I'm an idiot or not. Doesn't matter.

[Twigley]

It was in your best interests to maintain that snap Garrett.. at least for a time.

Now its basically gone, you've to concern yourself with the very-close Enmity/S2N, who I imagine will maintain their sNap to block ranks 2-3 (for a time).


I infact can't support what Garrett has done enough.

A kick up the arse is exactly what was needed and with the current leadership of Fail, they would be pretty useless to join in anyway as they are so badly motivated it's unreal - i have already had a few requests from their members to join.


You keep saying Enmity and S2N are close, however we where only put "close" because of your **** that you said at the start of this round.

I am "close" to 3/4 members of Enmity and i know the other 15 or so don't like me, or my alliance very much.

So please stop saying we are close...



So in regards to this ... hopefully people can now see that a snap is only their if you want to hit RRR is what Garrett is saying, and he is right.

So get your asses on IRC tonight if you are in, if you want to RESIST - if you are going to continue to only put forwards 3/4 members per night for an attack when alliacnes such as mine are putting 13/14 min, then prolly Aili wont take much notice of the "snap".


Some bad decisions have been made so far, and these need to be corrected.

RRR *Can* be taken down - there *ARE* tactics that enable this and i am *VERY* pleased to see members of alliances geared up for it.



Jesus, cmon ffs let's take them down already - IRC.

[Dark_Angel]

I am "close" to 3/4 members of Enmity and i know the other 15 or so don't like me, or my alliance very much.



One of those just happens to be their leader :P

-

Fair enough.

Seperately, did you just inform RRR of your LT :| ?

[Twigley]

If by LT you mean anytime in the future, then sure.

[Melnibone]

o.O a war/attack/whatever is decided in the first wave?

when was this update made public? news to me. at any rate, shame on me for playing the game. I singlehandedly gave RRR the round because the resistance was working *sooooo* hard.

TIK TAK! OK!

No your self pitying there Garrett, but if this stops and we work together i believe there is a better chance of RRR being taken down rather than the fight thats going on inside at the moment, at first it was 'Take down OF' but they continue to stand well and now its 'Take down fail' but that'll only delay the resistance in the process and make RRR grow bigger and bigger.

Haha you join in on OF because you think its easy land yet there were losses to the resistance there too.... I am looking to see how Fail stand up to fraction of the incoming we had please keep us up to date with developments

On a sidenote im quite upset people now think its garretts fault for RRR winning and not ours for being so petty and not dying straight away to n00b bashes........

[Garrett]

I personally and completely blame Melnibone :D


but what twigley said is true and i started to put that but I wanted to keep my posts somewhat upbeat. I find fail in severe disarray with DA gone. If my attacks galvanize Fail., then i've actually done Fail. a favor. Backhanded as it may be.

Also I have received messages since DA's disappearance for recruitment. So my feelings were that Fail. are a large security risk to ANY resistance as I fully believe a couple members would sell the resistance out in order to gain favor and hopefully a spot in RRR as I've seen them at 19 a couple times.

If fail. remains solid and steps it up, then I'll be happy and welcome them back to the fold.

oh btw it wasn't 1k. there was 2k on just one attack bringing it to 3-4k? sok for a first wave.

Disabled: 1,323,275 [£52,652,102,000] enemies disabled.
Died: 292,513 [£813,170,200] friendlies dead. 11,053,711 [£429,867,659,000] enemies dead.

You stole 1,946 land. [455] tree. [1,062] bush. [227] flower. [202] grass. [0] uncultivated.

[Enrico]

Bah the Resistance vs Resistance card is old news, by my estimate the resistance have lost about 4 trillion over the last 5 days to sillu nubs from Enmity attacking my ally. (around 3 till losses for us, 1 trill for them...)

I don't know why they didn't respect the truce, but hopefully they will wisen up now that we maybe can start launching on RRR rather than just sit around and contemplate our navels.

[pinpower]

Edit: made bold the most important point to remember when Reading most of the posts from certain other leaders/members of the "resistance" allies. The only hits we've been asked to be a part of are on OF. Not once have we been approached to hit RRR since initial hits days ago


I havnt read every post on this thread as im supposed to be working, i may comment further later on.

BUT

Im not gonna lie and say im not a bit annoyed. Fail. is now basically out of the resistance (if this keeps up) which is all we've been working for over the last few days (we've had members restart and recruited new people purely for the purpose of resisting - with increased armour obviously).

Its not the fact that they have hit us its the excuses that its for the resistance, as i said to Garrett IMO he'd have been better off just putting together a plan to hit them. Fail. was fully up for hitting RRR as ive said, yes we were rebuilding so were waiting to troop up a bit but nobody has come to me and suggested we hit RRR (including Aili) since the initial hits almost a week ago...so blaming the other "resistance" alliances for not doing anything is BS...

Alls fair in love and war so im not gonna hold any grudges, but i think its a real shame that what was supposed to be a great resistance (and i really think would have done some damage, maybe not won overall but we could have seriously dented RRR) IMO is alot worse off (or will be once this is through). They've lost 20 potential attackers and their troops, and whatever troops are lost in the battles. AND yes if you get more land you can buy back troops...but RRR are growing every day, so its going to delay hits more than even before.

Good luck to you all. I still hope the resistance wins, i just think this course of actions has shot the "resistance" in some sort of metaphorical foot.

;)

[Garrett]

How about I promise you results? If the remaining card holders don't attack to resist (however, I believe that the ground will tremble soon!)... we're going to suicide every last man on RRR.

I don't blame you for not making it work. I said somewhere either in PM or elsewhere in this thread that it's an issue that rests on everyone's shoulders that are involved.

So feel free to pay us back on the way down when we fall. Besides, I'm not even nearly giving your alliance the level of inc we received from your alliance early on in the round. Just this time, there are lethals in play. This isn't payback though. EF was way too small; JJ and Twigley in much better position to compliment my efforts; I've been killing TIR all week; OF was being massed; thus the scale and process of elimination are your foes here.

[CLem]

guilt trip ftw

[Podunk]

I havnt read every post on this thread as im supposed to be working, i may comment further later on.

BUT

Im not gonna lie and say im not a bit annoyed. Fail. is now basically out of the resistance (if this keeps up) which is all we've been working for over the last few days (we've had members restart and recruited new people purely for the purpose of resisting - with increased armour obviously).

Its not the fact that they have hit us its the excuses that its for the resistance, as i said to Garrett IMO he'd have been better off just putting together a plan to hit them. Fail. was fully up for hitting RRR as ive said, yes we were rebuilding so were waiting to troop up a bit but nobody has come to me and suggested we hit RRR (including Aili) since the initial hits almost a week ago...so blaming the other "resistance" alliances for not doing anything is BS...

Alls fair in love and war so im not gonna hold any grudges, but i think its a real shame that what was supposed to be a great resistance (and i really think would have done some damage, maybe not won overall but we could have seriously dented RRR) IMO is alot worse off (or will be once this is through). They've lost 20 potential attackers and their troops, and whatever troops are lost in the battles. AND yes if you get more land you can buy back troops...but RRR are growing every day, so its going to delay hits more than even before.

Good luck to you all. I still hope the resistance wins, i just think this course of actions has shot the "resistance" in some sort of metaphorical foot.

;)

You don't need increased armor. You need increased armor killers in order to take down RRR. Now, quit acting like you would have actually helped in the resistance. With your acres on our side there's a much higher chance of something actually happening to RRR.

[Alcibiades]

Woop Woop, war is in the air!

Fight it up people either at us, against us, with each other, i don't care just battle it out somewhere!!! :D

SNAPped resistances aren't any fun :(

[pinpower]

LOL Podunk ofc I meant armour killers.

And how do you know we wouldn't hit...we were fully up for hitting RRR, as I've said that's what we've been aiming for for days. But Not once were we asked...not even to discuss hitting them for days. So don't make out we didn't want to/wouldn't resist when we weren't asked.

[Podunk]

LOL Podunk ofc I meant armour killers.

And how do you know we wouldn't hit...we were fully up for hitting RRR, as I've said that's what we've been aiming for for days. But Not once were we asked...not even to discuss hitting them for days. So don't make out we didn't want to/wouldn't resist when we weren't asked.

*cough* *cough* TBH if none of us were ever asked or had plans to take out RRR then why was everyone so content with staying in the 'resistance'?

[Enrico]

There were plenty of plans, but to many were more interested in attacking OF. (Which granted was a pain in the ass.)

[Garrett]

now only because I was (almost) called an idiot/ supreme failer - I show you some of the fruits of our labor.

the first wave is all about gathering intel for me. then things like this happen

Disabled: 1,160,901 [£30,677,302,000] friendlies disabled.
Died: 14,841,223 [£111,550,956,400] friendlies dead. 104,543,167 [£1,423,784,564,200] enemies dead.

I regret that we lost that much. Had someone not accidentally gone afk, a robo would have been there as well.

[Commy 64]

Screw the resistance. Let RRR keep building...they will have nobody to attack when we are all out of range. That has to be REAL fun.

The game is about fun.

The resistance is a sham. Let's get back to having fun and let RRR reap what they have sown...BOREDOM. I applaud garret for doing something, anything to to make thign s fun again.

[aGit]

I am "close" to 3/4 members of Enmity and i know the other 15 or so don't like me, or my alliance very much.


Enmity has 60 members?

[tobapopalos]

I am "close" to 3/4 members of Enmity and i know the other 15 or so don't like me, or my alliance very much.


Enmity has 60 members?

Bloody powerblockers!

[Twigley]

I am "close" to 3/4 members of Enmity and i know the other 15 or so don't like me, or my alliance very much.


Enmity has 60 members?

Very funny.

3/4 = 3 or 4.

[Enrico]

I am "close" to 3/4 members of Enmity and i know the other 15 or so don't like me, or my alliance very much.


Enmity has 60 members?

Bloody powerblockers!

This brought a smile to my face, bless you Toby!

[Illumination]

Disabled: 1,160,901 [£30,677,302,000] friendlies disabled.
Died: 14,841,223 [£111,550,956,400] friendlies dead. 104,543,167 [£1,423,784,564,200] enemies dead.

I regret that we lost that much. Had someone not accidentally gone afk, a robo would have been there as well.


Sorry, I did indeed become hopelessly distracted. My pillow was calling. :P

[Alcibiades]

I am "close" to 3/4 members of Enmity and i know the other 15 or so don't like me, or my alliance very much.


Enmity has 60 members?

Very funny.

3/4 = 3 or 4.

incorrect. 3/4 = three quarters

[Twigley]

I am "close" to 3/4 members of Enmity and i know the other 15 or so don't like me, or my alliance very much.


Enmity has 60 members?

Very funny.

3/4 = 3 or 4.

incorrect. 3/4 = three quarters

What i'm saying is - by 3/4 i meant 3 or 4.
I know it isnt the official way to say 3 or 4, jesus.

Why would you even reply like that.

[Franny]

U are idiot! :D

[Alcibiades]

I am "close" to 3/4 members of Enmity and i know the other 15 or so don't like me, or my alliance very much.


Enmity has 60 members?

Very funny.

3/4 = 3 or 4.

incorrect. 3/4 = three quarters

What i'm saying is - by 3/4 i meant 3 or 4.
I know it isnt the official way to say 3 or 4, jesus.

Why would you even reply like that.

I simply had the best interests of the young and impressionable youth on this forum at heart. I didn't want them to be misled and fail mathematics. :(
THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

On topic: Fail seem to be falling fast and hard. Rotten to the core, much?

[Angela]

Resistance troops gathering dust are better than dead resistance troops tho garret ;)

The resistance doesn't seem like it will take off, and I'm saying this from a totally neutral point of view as I'm solo and have no ties in both camps. From the outside, the resistance doesn't look like a cohesive bunch. That has been proven by ail not taking part in the OF bashing and now by ail attacking fail.

It doesn't look very good, but I hope you guys can prove me wrong by actually doing some hits and posting br's :D

Why would the "resistance" which consits of what 3/4 alliances? hit one particular alliance that isnt rank 1 or even rank 2 ? (not sure what rank they are/was when the "resistance" hit them) And why should the resistance fail just because ail wouldnt go on a mass bash of a smaller alliance?

[lavadog]

Correction, they went and killed fail, which was a colleague resistance alli. My point was that the resistance doesn't seem like a cohesive bunch when that happens.

However I reviewed my opinion of this attack since I posted that ;)

[f0xx]

To be part of resistance doesn't mean you have to be snapped with everyone else who is also part of it.

From what I can see, this whole "resistance" thing seems just like an excuse to me. I dunno, but wherever twigley is envolved, there seems to be a lot of snapping and hand holding.

[Garrett]

tbh what i saw was some elements ready on one day, and then other elements ready on another day, but no day where all elements were ready to go.

as fail can see just because they did equal damage on the first wave in only one of the BR's they couldn't afford to lose those troops and it was devastating to them.

also, the fact that there were ship jumpers and that half the ally had been applying to other allies meant that they were a security risk as they could very easily sell out resistance plans to try and gain favor to whatever ally they applied.

Now that the resistance seems to have contracted to mostly just the ranks 2-4, and there has been more enthusiasm since overall.

If the resistance doesn't take place, then I figure we'll be hit at some point and wont give anyone that satisfaction. i'll suicide my troops in an attack first. I felt everyone in the resistance needed a wake up call and that delay = death. Now we can move forward with the rest of the round and put this ugly chapter behind us.

[Enrico]

Why would the "resistance" which consits of what 3/4 alliances? hit one particular alliance that isnt rank 1 or even rank 2 ? (not sure what rank they are/was when the "resistance" hit them) And why should the resistance fail just because ail wouldnt go on a mass bash of a smaller alliance?

Nah it wouldn't.

Btw my ally have been part of the resistance since before RRR became #1.

And for the record we did not participate in any mass-bash on OF either. (If you would call attacking an ally twice your size a bash).

[Melnibone]

Why would the "resistance" which consits of what 3/4 alliances? hit one particular alliance that isnt rank 1 or even rank 2 ? (not sure what rank they are/was when the "resistance" hit them) And why should the resistance fail just because ail wouldnt go on a mass bash of a smaller alliance?

Nah it wouldn't.

Btw my ally have been part of the resistance since before RRR became #1.

And for the record we did not participate in any mass-bash on OF either. (If you would call attacking an ally twice your size a bash).


Lies... in the waves on OF many of the ids were EF whether as part of the organised 'resistance' against rank 4 or just multiple ids looking for easy land

As for your alliance mails regarding a 'bash' look up the term please 4-5 members of one alliance hitting your alliance does not qualify, 110 incs from 5-6 allies (including yours) totally 4.3bil troops does.......

Please Enrico stop the lies and the nonsense there are those amongst our ranks that hate liars and like to land rape them......

[Enrico]

Why would the "resistance" which consits of what 3/4 alliances? hit one particular alliance that isnt rank 1 or even rank 2 ? (not sure what rank they are/was when the "resistance" hit them) And why should the resistance fail just because ail wouldnt go on a mass bash of a smaller alliance?

Nah it wouldn't.

Btw my ally have been part of the resistance since before RRR became #1.

And for the record we did not participate in any mass-bash on OF either. (If you would call attacking an ally twice your size a bash).


Lies... in the waves on OF many of the ids were EF whether as part of the organised 'resistance' against rank 4 or just multiple ids looking for easy land

As for your alliance mails regarding a 'bash' look up the term please 4-5 members of one alliance hitting your alliance does not qualify, 110 incs from 5-6 allies (including yours) totally 4.3bil troops does.......

Please Enrico stop the lies and the nonsense there are those amongst our ranks that hate liars and like to land rape them......

The 'Resistance' can pr definition only attack #1.

As for whether EF members joined the attack on OF? Most likely. I had no full ID list of OF, and have never considered them a proper target anyway. (They ain't #1 and they ain't something we can take out on our own) :P But I sure as hell haven't safelisted them either.

And no, "bash" is perhaps a bit strong, but when 4 players, all twice the size of their target attack 4 times in a row, its kinda pathetic. Especially when they recall even when the BR would most likely have been a fun 50/50!! :D

I have full respect for OF but queening while bottom feeding don't really become them at all!

[Melnibone]

Why would the "resistance" which consits of what 3/4 alliances? hit one particular alliance that isnt rank 1 or even rank 2 ? (not sure what rank they are/was when the "resistance" hit them) And why should the resistance fail just because ail wouldnt go on a mass bash of a smaller alliance?

Nah it wouldn't.

Btw my ally have been part of the resistance since before RRR became #1.

And for the record we did not participate in any mass-bash on OF either. (If you would call attacking an ally twice your size a bash).


Lies... in the waves on OF many of the ids were EF whether as part of the organised 'resistance' against rank 4 or just multiple ids looking for easy land

As for your alliance mails regarding a 'bash' look up the term please 4-5 members of one alliance hitting your alliance does not qualify, 110 incs from 5-6 allies (including yours) totally 4.3bil troops does.......

Please Enrico stop the lies and the nonsense there are those amongst our ranks that hate liars and like to land rape them......

The 'Resistance' can pr definition only attack #1.

As for whether EF members joined the attack on OF? Most likely. I had no full ID list of OF, and have never considered them a proper target anyway. (They ain't #1 and they ain't something we can take out on our own) :P But I sure as hell haven't safelisted them either.

And no, "bash" is perhaps a bit strong, but when 4 players, all twice the size of their target attack 4 times in a row, its kinda pathetic. Especially when they recall even when the BR would most likely have been a fun 50/50!! :D

I have full respect for OF but queening while bottom feeding don't really become them at all!

so to summarize EF did send to OF at the same time as the other resistance allies and we arent bashing you (stealing land is a very important part of the game as im sure your aware Enrico)

so 2 points i took you to task for lying about you've now admitted my original post stands.

[Enrico]

No, we most definitely did NOT send when the "LT" was, as we had incoming and was defending, but what people did during the night, I do not know, I was not online. But as we were landfat after killing the thais and landraping those that wasn't locked, I suspect it at most was some killmobs or stealthmobs trying to sneak past your defenses.

I asked earlier for any form of intel on WHO in our ally had "bashed" you but the screenshots and list was convienatly "lost" or something. Still how an ally at best half your size would be able to *bash* you is beyond me! I never said we never have attacked you this round, I said we were not part of any organized launches.

But yeah; not "bash", "pathetic scorequeening bottomfeeding" is probably a more correct description of your actions. :)

[Melnibone]

I can assure you those ids were in the first wave so thats a lie but its the word of OF against those of EF.

Second taking easy land from an alliance that is too fat on land and has virtually no troops to defend itself is not as you put it "pathetic scorequeening bottomfeeding" its called taking easy land from an enemy and happens every day in this game

learn to defend and stop whining like a little girl because OMFG an alliance bigger than you attacks alone and steals your land EPIC fail indeed ^^

[Enrico]

I can assure you those ids were in the first wave so thats a lie but its the word of OF against those of EF.

Second taking easy land from an alliance that is too fat on land and has virtually no troops to defend itself is not as you put it "pathetic scorequeening bottomfeeding" its called taking easy land from an enemy and happens every day in this game

learn to defend and stop whining like a little girl because OMFG an alliance bigger than you attacks alone and steals your land EPIC fail indeed ^^


Oh seems you at least decided to stay this time, much more enjoyable anyway! BRs ftw!

And landfat? You have mobs on people with less than 5% landfat... :P But meh, use whatever excuse you want for the bottomfeeding, I know we had incoming at the time you claim we were attacking you.

Just don't be so damn hypocritical about being waved by three allies who did not have better targets.

[Hobbezak]

I can assure you those ids were in the first wave so thats a lie but its the word of OF against those of EF.
There were also ids of EF in the first wave on Fail. You as well as I know that in large hits, vultures join in on the easy land. And let's call things like they are. A mate of mine in EF has been complaining about OF hitting with 4 (200%) over 2 ticks on 1 player days before this "resistance on OF". So lets not turn things around, you went for easy land before that "resistance", and you're still doing that.


Second taking easy land from an alliance that is too fat on land and has virtually no troops to defend itself is not as you put it "pathetic scorequeening bottomfeeding" its called taking easy land from an enemy and happens every day in this game
I think he was referring to you recalling at the slightest sight of trouble (ie not going in for battles, just for land). Everyone does it, but then again, almost everyone is a scorequeen bottomfeeder these days. Toby's targets almost always send out, he's still top 10 on bountyhunting. Because no one cares about battles anymore, just about easy land.


learn to defend and stop whining like a little girl because OMFG an alliance bigger than you attacks alone and steals your land EPIC fail indeed ^^
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have not seen any ally not having a few players whining about unfair inc. I plead guilty about it myself, I'm probably the biggest whiner in Aili. But that's because I do think that if you're being bashed by a far superior force, you have the right to whine. And anyway, your ally has whined about the "resistance" too, so I think it's only fair you accept that Enrico isn't too happy with the inc you've been giving him.

[Melnibone]

I can assure you those ids were in the first wave so thats a lie but its the word of OF against those of EF.
There were also ids of EF in the first wave on Fail. You as well as I know that in large hits, vultures join in on the easy land. And let's call things like they are. A mate of mine in EF has been complaining about OF hitting with 4 (200%) over 2 ticks on 1 player days before this "resistance on OF". So lets not turn things around, you went for easy land before that "resistance", and you're still doing that.

Yes your right Hobbezak everyone attacks so that its easy to get killed/blocked ^^. No seriously if your alliance cant defend against 4 200% attackers you are not a good alliance that is only the equivalent of 8 defenders (6 or 7 at most if you include those attacked)


Second taking easy land from an alliance that is too fat on land and has virtually no troops to defend itself is not as you put it "pathetic scorequeening bottomfeeding" its called taking easy land from an enemy and happens every day in this game
I think he was referring to you recalling at the slightest sight of trouble (ie not going in for battles, just for land). Everyone does it, but then again, almost everyone is a scorequeen bottomfeeder these days. Toby's targets almost always send out, he's still top 10 on bountyhunting. Because no one cares about battles anymore, just about easy land.

No since this game first started (like yourself i was there) there is and never had been a point in losing troops if you can go back later and get better odds... (well there is one reason but nobody here needs to lose score to get better targets) not dying is a vital part of this game ^^


learn to defend and stop whining like a little girl because OMFG an alliance bigger than you attacks alone and steals your land EPIC fail indeed ^^
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have not seen any ally not having a few players whining about unfair inc. I plead guilty about it myself, I'm probably the biggest whiner in Aili. But that's because I do think that if you're being bashed by a far superior force, you have the right to whine. And anyway, your ally has whined about the "resistance" too, so I think it's only fair you accept that Enrico isn't too happy with the inc you've been giving him.

He can be as unhappy as he likes but this discussion started because of basic lies by Enrico that i corrected. Im sure even you can see the difference between the incoming i whined about and an alliance complaing of 4 attackers

I have been out the game for a while so i dont know your relationship to Enrico but hes doing badly enough without any help......

[Hobbezak]

I can assure you those ids were in the first wave so thats a lie but its the word of OF against those of EF.
There were also ids of EF in the first wave on Fail. You as well as I know that in large hits, vultures join in on the easy land. And let's call things like they are. A mate of mine in EF has been complaining about OF hitting with 4 (200%) over 2 ticks on 1 player days before this "resistance on OF". So lets not turn things around, you went for easy land before that "resistance", and you're still doing that.

Yes your right Hobbezak everyone attacks so that its easy to get killed/blocked ^^. No seriously if your alliance cant defend against 4 200% attackers you are not a good alliance that is only the equivalent of 8 defenders (6 or 7 at most if you include those attacked)


Second taking easy land from an alliance that is too fat on land and has virtually no troops to defend itself is not as you put it "pathetic scorequeening bottomfeeding" its called taking easy land from an enemy and happens every day in this game
I think he was referring to you recalling at the slightest sight of trouble (ie not going in for battles, just for land). Everyone does it, but then again, almost everyone is a scorequeen bottomfeeder these days. Toby's targets almost always send out, he's still top 10 on bountyhunting. Because no one cares about battles anymore, just about easy land.

No since this game first started (like yourself i was there) there is and never had been a point in losing troops if you can go back later and get better odds... (well there is one reason but nobody here needs to lose score to get better targets) not dying is a vital part of this game ^^


learn to defend and stop whining like a little girl because OMFG an alliance bigger than you attacks alone and steals your land EPIC fail indeed ^^
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have not seen any ally not having a few players whining about unfair inc. I plead guilty about it myself, I'm probably the biggest whiner in Aili. But that's because I do think that if you're being bashed by a far superior force, you have the right to whine. And anyway, your ally has whined about the "resistance" too, so I think it's only fair you accept that Enrico isn't too happy with the inc you've been giving him.

He can be as unhappy as he likes but this discussion started because of basic lies by Enrico that i corrected. Im sure even you can see the difference between the incoming i whined about and an alliance complaing of 4 attackers

I have been out the game for a while so i dont know your relationship to Enrico but hes doing badly enough without any help......

Actually I tend to stay from time to time to just get a fancy battle report, one of the more memorable was against andyM's RPG's. For me, even though I'm landfat as hell, this game isn't about who can whore most land, it's about epic battles. So to me, your first two points are entirely void.
Also plenty of people have bounty as a large goal, just like in the old days of L/F, people like Loser had L/F ranks as a goal.
And anyway, Enrico mentioned 50/50 brs, not you losing all and they epically pwning you. :)

Difference between your inc and Enrico's inc? You only had inc for one day, I've been hearing complaints from an EF-member for about a week now. Small difference.
Obviously I'm not going to give you a lecture on morals, as I myself have been in similar attacks on TIR, DW and EF too, but I do think that
1. I doubt EF were in with the planning of the "resistance" on OF.
2. 4 members of 200% on 2 ticks on a rather inactive ally = bashing if it happens very often.
So I don't think he has been lying. Which has been my main point all along.

On your last statement: I have no "relation" with Enrico, haven't been in an ally with him for rounds, and even then it was really short. I just think you're being quite harsh on him.

[septimus]

How about I promise you results? If the remaining card holders don't attack to resist (however, I believe that the ground will tremble soon!)... we're going to suicide every last man on RRR.

I don't blame you for not making it work. I said somewhere either in PM or elsewhere in this thread that it's an issue that rests on everyone's shoulders that are involved.

So feel free to pay us back on the way down when we fall. Besides, I'm not even nearly giving your alliance the level of inc we received from your alliance early on in the round. Just this time, there are lethals in play. This isn't payback though. EF was way too small; JJ and Twigley in much better position to compliment my efforts; I've been killing TIR all week; OF was being massed; thus the scale and process of elimination are your foes here.

I have no real stake in this in anyway, but, out of curiosity what is the timeline now in regards to your promise for results? 24 hours since hitting Fail? 48? 72 hours? At what point do you stop waiting and, with or without the resistance, hit RRR? Im not asking for an exact LT, but, a general timeframe of how long you are giving the resistance to actually resist?

[MattM]

*sigh* Hobbezak, stop making such excellent posts, I can't give you reputation for them all :(

[Dziunglius]

You only had inc for one day.

Get Your Facts Straight. As far as I can recall, more than one wave was sent at us, I was woken up more than once during the week :P


P.S. Talking bout Enrico's guys - sorry m8 I'm a vulture, I needs easy land.

[Enrico]

How about I promise you results? If the remaining card holders don't attack to resist (however, I believe that the ground will tremble soon!)... we're going to suicide every last man on RRR.

I don't blame you for not making it work. I said somewhere either in PM or elsewhere in this thread that it's an issue that rests on everyone's shoulders that are involved.

So feel free to pay us back on the way down when we fall. Besides, I'm not even nearly giving your alliance the level of inc we received from your alliance early on in the round. Just this time, there are lethals in play. This isn't payback though. EF was way too small; JJ and Twigley in much better position to compliment my efforts; I've been killing TIR all week; OF was being massed; thus the scale and process of elimination are your foes here.

I have no real stake in this in anyway, but, out of curiosity what is the timeline now in regards to your promise for results? 24 hours since hitting Fail? 48? 72 hours? At what point do you stop waiting and, with or without the resistance, hit RRR? Im not asking for an exact LT, but, a general timeframe of how long you are giving the resistance to actually resist?

Well we have had Old Farts knocking on our door, bottomfeeding the whole day, but I don't expect the resistance to be hindered by that. :P

[Enrico]

You only had inc for one day.

Get Your Facts Straight. As far as I can recall, more than one wave was sent at us, I was woken up more than once during the week :P


P.S. Talking bout Enrico's guys - sorry m8 I'm a vulture, I needs easy land.

What about my guys? oh and the land ain't that easy mate. ;)

For what its worth, I would have been less irritated if OF had said the truth: "Yeah we are scorequeening bottomfeeders, and we attack in mass on a much smaller ally, because we want easy land,no losses, and no fun BRs." rather than claim some sort of martyrdom for having TBA on their back for 24 hours or what it was. If they really wanted to take their revenge they would have hit the participating alliances, rather than someone who at most had some randoms sending. And the fact they have been sending some mass-attacks for weeks before the waves from TBA just proves that they are full of hot air and little else.

Anyways, lets get some fun BRs at least!!

[Garrett]

I have no real stake in this in anyway, but, out of curiosity what is the timeline now in regards to your promise for results? 24 hours since hitting Fail? 48? 72 hours? At what point do you stop waiting and, with or without the resistance, hit RRR? Im not asking for an exact LT, but, a general timeframe of how long you are giving the resistance to actually resist?

It has already begun.

[Enrico]

Oh cr*p and thanks to OF I miss it. :'(

[antisback]

I don't think Enrico is complaining so much about the amount of inc, more the fact it's been pretty constant for 4 or 5 days now - may i take the opportunity to praise your dedication.

Lets be honest though, it most definitely is bottom feeding - who cares its a valid tactic and back in the day i was easily one of the worst for it. The fact of the matter is the remaining player base is so active you'd do very well to land at anything other than 40% with 5 player over 3 ticks. But come on, grow some balls and admit it, whats the point in saving face, its a game - i doubt you really need to impress anyone here.

At the end of the day i'm not going to complain about it, but don't spend 4 or 5 pages in the other thread having 5 or 6 different people complain for 3 or 4 waves and then have a go at enrico for having a word here.
/me is not a big fan of Hypocrisy

Died: 14,396,223 [£237,202,967,900] enemies dead. 20,502,402 [£1,060,374,864,000] friendlies dead.
Epic Fail?

[Podunk]

I spied OF members when I was notified that the 'resistance' was hitting them.
EF was most definitely hitting them.

You hit them with the 'resistance'
They are hitting you now because you hit them.

They are not a part of the resistance. In fact they have a crossed out R as their little alliance flag thing. Its not hard to see that they are against the resistance.

Meanwhile you have the little R as your alliance flag. I'd venture to guess that puts you up high on their targets list.

I haven't seen this amount of whining for awhile now. It makes me sick. If your alliance was in my range I would give you something to whine about.

Play for blood. Play for land.

[Enrico]

Are they resisting resistance?? ;) Funny how they waved us the week BEFORE TBA launched an attack on them, then?

Or that they most soundly have waved Fail. who undoubtably is out of the resistance. :P

Fair and square bottomfeeding I don't mind as much, claiming they were bashed by an alliance half their size (who at the time was busy dealing with incoming) is just laughable...

Old Farts have lost much respect in my eyes, at least other allies who have waved us haven't tried to excuse themselves with some noble cause and how OMFGWTFBBQ sad it is they were hit by other alliances earlier.

Meh we will rebuild! :D Not for revenge, glory or bottomfeeding but For The Lulz!!

[Podunk]

Are they resisting resistance?? ;) Funny how they waved us the week BEFORE TBA launched an attack on them, then?

Or that they most soundly have waved Fail. who undoubtably is out of the resistance. :P

Fair and square bottomfeeding I don't mind as much, claiming they were bashed by an alliance half their size (who at the time was busy dealing with incoming) is just laughable...

Old Farts have lost much respect in my eyes, at least other allies who have waved us haven't tried to excuse themselves with some noble cause and how OMFGWTFBBQ sad it is they were hit by other alliances earlier.

Meh we will rebuild! :D Not for revenge, glory or bottomfeeding but For The Lulz!!

They aren't claiming that your alliance alone bashed them. But your alliance + Enmity + Fail + S2N + RRR. As far as I'm concerned EF is completely irrelevant this round only a leech of the 'resistance' to hide and avoid possible incoming they might get.

[Enrico]

Are they resisting resistance?? ;) Funny how they waved us the week BEFORE TBA launched an attack on them, then?

Or that they most soundly have waved Fail. who undoubtably is out of the resistance. :P

Fair and square bottomfeeding I don't mind as much, claiming they were bashed by an alliance half their size (who at the time was busy dealing with incoming) is just laughable...

Old Farts have lost much respect in my eyes, at least other allies who have waved us haven't tried to excuse themselves with some noble cause and how OMFGWTFBBQ sad it is they were hit by other alliances earlier.

Meh we will rebuild! :D Not for revenge, glory or bottomfeeding but For The Lulz!!

They aren't claiming that your alliance alone bashed them. But your alliance + Enmity + Fail + S2N + RRR. As far as I'm concerned EF is completely irrelevant this round only a leech of the 'resistance' to hide and avoid possible incoming they might get.

You obviously have no clue how an resistance works? I ain't a powerblock holding rosy hands. :P We have had our share of incoming from other resistance members.

As for OF, do they imply RRR is part of the resistance then? ;) I mean they have the small R-logo, sent on OF etc. :D

But seriously, my main goal for the round is to have a fun round with cool people, and so far that has been a success, and I wanted and still want to contribute what I can to make sure the stagnating bore-fest of last round doesn't repeat.

(Oh and as I think Garrett can confirm: EF was sending at #1 before RRR took that spot as well. )

[Alcibiades]

*snip*

They aren't claiming that your alliance alone bashed them. But your alliance + Enmity + Fail + S2N + RRR.

To lump us in with those neanderthals is unfair :P we just sent on targets of opportunity (i.e. the ones that grew into range, in retrospect presumably to defend against their other inc) and hit them. We weren't really aware that they had other inc. So let's not confuse the issue ;)

That is speaking for myself, there may have been 'behind the scenes organization to which i was not party' but i'm pretty sure we just were like 'oh sweet XXXX ID is in range, let's hit them, ready bashers? set bashers? GO!'

[Garrett]

I could have sworn this thread was about Fail.


I must be wrong :( I just need to stop making threads I guess.

[Podunk]

*snip*

They aren't claiming that your alliance alone bashed them. But your alliance + Enmity + Fail + S2N + RRR.

To lump us in with those neanderthals is unfair :P we just sent on targets of opportunity (i.e. the ones that grew into range, in retrospect presumably to defend against their other inc) and hit them. We weren't really aware that they had other inc. So let's not confuse the issue ;)

That is speaking for myself, there may have been 'behind the scenes organization to which i was not party' but i'm pretty sure we just were like 'oh sweet XXXX ID is in range, let's hit them, ready bashers? set bashers? GO!'

I was merely stating who I saw attacking OF members at that current time I spied OF. RRR were all over wacky because he pulled a dumb move by sending 69 troopers to like 5 of RRR's IDs. So sorry to lump you in there but you were present therefore noted in the roll call so to speak. :p


*snip*
You obviously have no clue how an resistance works?
*more snip*


Yes, I've lead my alliance to a win via resistance. The 'resistance' we have this round I still think is a load of crap since we let RRR grow for a week unhindered.
Until it proves me wrong I will take a pessimists point of view on if for this round.

I could have sworn this thread was about Fail.


I must be wrong :( I just need to stop making threads I guess.

Sorry Garrett, I had to speak my mind on the garbage that was brought to this topic :p

On topic: Fail died. Lol.

[Enrico]

Yeah, Melnibone sorta high-jacked it, and I was lead astray.

[Enrico]

*snip*
You obviously have no clue how an resistance works?
*more snip*


Yes, I've lead my alliance to a win via resistance. The 'resistance' we have this round I still think is a load of crap since we let RRR grow for a week unhindered.
Until it proves me wrong I will take a pessimists point of view on if for this round.

Well, I can agree on that!! Just sad that when the show finally starts I'm virtually zeroed from silly OF incoming, and can't play along. :'(

And what I meant was that you seemed to imply that everyone associated with the resistance was exempt from incoming from other members of the resistance, which is wrong. :) A quick look on the alliance stats show that we have had our share of inc. (Leading "the most helped out" stat.)

[Garrett]

well as long as we're clearing the air, EF was down with me since week 1 when we took a pitiful initial stab on 2nd20 and followed me against enmity. but no one has really disputed that either.

and as far as showing results to fail. 2 waves have been launched. 1 total recall. 2nd wave took a bunch of flak and pom losses HOWEVER we did nab 3k acres in the process.

Was it worth it for the 3k? Eh, it could have been better. But I didn't promise victory, I promised results. Results you now have.

Now excuse me, I still have flak to kill.

[aGit]

around and round it goes, where it stops, nobody knows. This thread that is.

at the end of the day, this is still a war game, so why X did Y is totaly irrelevant.

[Garrett]

Apathy is death. We convinced people rounds ago not to post this stuff. The forum activity pretty much died.

Soap Operas are totally irrelevant, however, they are fun.

Such is the drama between ingame personnel.


Shhh the director called for quiet on the set! aaaaaaaand ACTION!