Remove the no, no recalling!

[IceOfFire]

If we gonna have to play this for 38 days, we need to be able to recall!

This is *****!

[Nitrous]

I second that.

Even if we're playing for a week it'll be ****.

So enable recalling again!

[Satureum]

I personally think it'd be fun. Pick your targets carefully guys.
Just use strategy in your game play.

[Alcibiades]

since this round should be about having fun, i like the idea. saves me having to monitor any sort of attack, just click send and go off for 40 minutes :)

[Satureum]

since this round should be about having fun, i like the idea. saves me having to monitor any sort of attack, just click send and go off for 40 minutes :)

Screw the losses, eh? Got another 9 routes worth of units to buy.

[Twigley]

since this round should be about having fun, i like the idea. saves me having to monitor any sort of attack, just click send and go off for 40 minutes :)

fun?

[No-Dachi]

There are different opinions of fun, twigley ;)

[Satureum]

There are different opinions of fun, twigley ;)

Like catching someone walking in to a dark alley fun, or sending an attack and hoping for the best fun?

[mcdonagg]

I love the idea but maybe we should allow recalling for defending troops so if you are sending last tick defense you dont have to wait around, I guess its not a big deal but just a thought

[pinpower]

cant believe how late the round is starting now...bad times

[dafe]

no recalling sux for both attack and defence in my eyes so i definately vote for turning it back on

[Enrico]

Can't say the no recall have impacted me much. it does make for different tactical choices, but since when have that been a bad thing??

[Kariko]

Specially on christmas :x-mas: people have busy schedules on the one day of the year where we should be away from computers.

[timthetyrant]

I have a question, has anybody tried planting stuf with no gardeners at home yet?, i did that on my first tick (first thing i did was attack a bot with my 100t wheelies and sent everything else as flac) and then i noticed i didnt get any seeds to sell, wtf?

[DarkSider]

First of all no recall can't run in the same time with ar enabled.
And second i think the defensive abilities given by 50 man allies are so big that it will make attacking not fun at all :P I can't predict the future but i'd say it would suck if you send a 5 man/tick attack which already gives crap gains and then you get defended by 20 players and can't recall.
No recall option should run imo exclusively in solo pw's or very low members/alliance and always with ar disabled or nonlethal.

[Jimbo2189]

its not like this round counts for anything so i say keep it, we are going to see some fabulous BRs :shock:

[timtadams]

yeah, remove it please Azzer

DS covered it i think, both defence and offence will be smegged up in my opinion, especially since heaps of people will be allied, and then if solo, you cant recall if you trigger

I just sent an attack on a bot (not something i usually do, but they are soooo fat :P ) and I was totally gobsmacked when I triggered SAS! WTF, and then i had to endure two more ticks of it. And i didnt even trigger it, all i sent was a flak attack with about 1m gardies to a bot on my rankings page :bad-words: And i triggered because there was obviously someone else attacking with something like privates :mad:

I know you could say, oh yeah, its a bit of fun like Alci, and i sorta thought that at first, but now i realise how messed up it will be. the chances of being zeroed are very high if you are attacking alone, and then trying to organise defence for a 20 man alliance is hard enough for 5 min ticks, let alone an alliance of 50! and when someone gets inc from like a whole alliance of 20 people and you try and defend that, with not enough people, and some people afk, people who forget to rush and others who just miss it, then everyone who does send including the target get smegged up.

Oh and what about this situation. 20 ally members send at a target, everyone defends, and then the attackers send a real mob just only about 2-7 ticks later (or something like that) at a different target and noone can defend cause all their troops are out. OK this is silly cause they shouldnt send all their troops, blah blah, but this is a simplified example. You get the picture, your ally sends out defence and cant recall in time for real mobs. The whole thing is messed up.

I dont mind the AR, but as long as Azzer removes the no recalling. Cause that would really mess people up, not being able to recall from SAS

And Jimbo, i dont think people are worried about rank, ect, it is the fact that when you try hard to grow, and then you get zeroed in smegged up situations which couldve easily been avoided, its all for nothing, you wasted your time ect. I know that i couldnt give a hoot about stats and coming first, but i am still against the no recalling as the potential for getting zeroed is just way too high.

And im not sure about those BRs you mention. I doubt that it could get anywhere near the size of last round as people are going to be getting zeroed all the time, which will result in everyone having smaller armies. And i think people will be less likely to attack others as they will be worried about defence.

And IoF, think you could add a pole? and allow revoting, cause i bet many people will have their minds changed :)

[Garrett]

there is a fine line between suggesting tweaks/enhancements and whining to get the game changed to your comfort level.


this thread falls in the whining category along with everyone who agrees with it.

it's not a regular round. it's (some) private world settings on the public world. instead of adapting to the style of play and finding fun in the new environment - everyone is rushing around trying to play like it's world 1 and caring so hard about this that and the other thing.

the lot of you take 2 steps back, breathe and then ask yourself:

is this a game? (if your answer is no, set your ID to delete)
does this count towards anything? (if your answer is yes, set your ID to delete)
can I have fun with this, especially since it's not going to last the full time allotted? (if your answer is no, set your ID to delete)
can I possibly play this game in any facet without crying? (again if answer is no, set your ID to delete)
am I thankful azzer is letting us play around? (if your answer is no, set your ID to delete)

just some things for you all to reconsider. why do you care so much about organizing for something that isn't going to reach completion and doesn't count for anything... I fully believe the playerbase has gone retarded over the holiday.

[Cyrus]

there's also a fine line between fact and your opinion ;-)

and this fall under your opinion garret :P

:x-mas:

[Kariko]

its not like this round counts for anything so i say keep it, we are going to see some fabulous BRs :shock:


Hope so! Does it not count towards portal?
"a snapshot of the rankings will be taken for this round for the portal page."

[Garrett]

the miniround is going to be reset before it ends so no it can't count. there is nothing in this thread but sand-filled bathing suits that are inflexible to change.

[Alcibiades]

also if it were to count toward portal what's the goddamn fuss about? Play to the best of your ability and be proud of your result. People who worry about portal, valuation, rankings etc are playing for all the wrong reasons.

[Azzer]

It'll be chucked in the portal simply due to the nature of the code for world 1 being designed around storing every round in the portal, but it'll not be kept in Age 5's history files, and the first round of Age 5 will be round 30, regardless of this (now old/age 4) server's internal "round count" going up for this little mini-game and the tournament.

It's safe to say you can now ignore the round count, and any future insertions in to the portal history, as they will be reset/removed/sorted out when everything is transferred and upgraded to the new server & Age 5.

[MattM]

No recalling is great fun, shame on people for calling for its removal!

[CFalcon]

Social aspect aside, my main enjoyment of the game comes from faking, stealthing, recalling and resending, picking my moment, and generally outwitting my opponents [note this is very different to wanting score, it just often coincides]. The argument that you should "lighten up and just have some fun" is BS. Hitting send and then having a laugh when it all goes wrong is possibly good the first time. It gets old rather fast.

If you like a game where you hit GO and then watch things happen, I can recommend some good DVDs.

[MattM]

And you can still do all that except the 'recall & resend' bit. Stop moaning.

[Elderveld]

Keep it! the lower alliances actualy stand a chance to killing top guy's in defence! RAWWR!! come get some!!!

[DarkSider]

As predicted top alliance can't attack us at all :P
They sent 2 attacks this morning and got crippled and now everybody sits on acres and develops or hunts solo's still in range. No recall can't work with large allies :(

[Alcibiades]

i'm quite enjoying my solo existence with spike traps and gurus. Bring on the waves :P

That being said, I can fully understand how ally attacks/defence would be beyond frustrating. 50 man allies was a bit insane....

[Garrett]

As predicted top alliance can't attack us at all :P
They sent 2 attacks this morning and got crippled and now everybody sits on acres and develops or hunts solo's still in range. No recall can't work with large allies :(

DS,

I like you. I really do. Maybe in some ways that are wholly unnatural... but i digest. ;)

1 week of an ally that is made up of a bunch of randoms with no plan and you say this doesn't work? holy crap. I think you got swept up in the moment and have joined the crying side.

All your great tatical wisdom and this is the best you can come up with. I feel shame for you. Instead of rising to the challenge you are satisfied to whine that you need a recall button.

Think of this as Nightmare or Hell mode. Oh also, find your balls, you seem to have misplaced them somewhere.

[Twigley]

Seems a bit harsh Garret.
You can't see it's DS playing games again in another round?
He really must of mastered those tactics.

:x-mas:

[Garrett]

look i'm just a blunt person because I can't care enough to sugar coat everything.

we're in the age of being able to be sued because I said someone was born retarded instead of mentally handicapped.

i'm just trying to get back to basics and calling spades, spades.


besides I let him play with my wife's tits all the time. i think i'm allowed a little leeway here.

[mrmongo]

i think its actually been pretty good this no recalling lark, people balls up and lose staff in attack and def... its been a lot of distracting all round i think guru being the prefered unit lol

[tobapopalos]

I fully believe the playerbase has gone retarded over the holiday.

I, on the other hand, always believed the playerbase to be retarded and are now telling you all that I TOLD YOU SO!

[Alcibiades]

i can't speak for the allied players; although i've always considered big allies to be a 'huge no no' for many reasons; among them an inability to create a proper community atmosphere.

No recalling leads to rebuilding which i enjoy the most out of almost all aspects of the game. Apparently many don't share my enthusiasm for dying/being killed and rebuilding but i think it's a blast. Stop being so concerned with rank/score and enjoy the round, or alternatively, set your ID to delete and play the next mini round that's coming up. My favourite part if i were allied would be the amount of stress it would take off, as once you've sent, you've sent, and there's nothing you can do about it so no need to worry, maintain your troops or do anything other than have someone or some people call defence correctly. No need to resend or recall or worry about fakes etc. once you've sent you really are committed so sit back and enjoy the ride :)

[Excons]

recall is for pussies. suck it up.

[Satureum]

Score queens can bite me.
I went Lethals all the way, kill kill kill. No point to recall when I knew I'd slaughter half their fleet in the process of dying myself.

I personally loved the no recalling.