Barack Hussein Obama

[TheNamelessWonder]

Will be President-Elect of the United States of America within 24 hours.

Look at that name. That dude's gonna win. How far we have come!...?

[P_I]

Look at that name. That dude's gonna win. How far we have come!...?

Not far enough, according to 200m euros :)

[Garrett]

silly euros. always thinking you matter :D


<3 P_I

[Khris]

i am scared...

scared scared scared....



***** getting crazy... every hillbilly with a gun is going to be maaaaaaaaaaaaaaddddddd

[Harbinger]

The thoughts of some silly euro :P

In my opinion, the USA died on 5 June 1968. There is a chance, a chance I say, that it can be resurrected with the election of Barack Obama. If it happens, and there is an afterlife, then Martin Luther King Jr is smiling now - it came to be.

A United States of America that can elect as their president a man of African descent, begin to take care of its people, and work with and listen to the world community will begin the long journey of restoring its reputation and can once again be a nation that the world looks up to.

[Garrett]

silly euro indeed as USA is still on the maps. tis still the united states of america and will continue to be until we are conquered. if it truly died then, there wouldn't be continuing advancements in equality for all (no it's not perfect... it's a work in progress) and all the other things that have happened that are positives in the last 40 years. voting for obama doesn't automatically fix things. christ people have thrown out reality with this election.

separately, however, there are many issues around this campaign that just irk me... because he's black he's the only agent of change? i also tire of 'if you don't vote for obama, you are a racist'. there are racist tones on both sides of the fence here. again, voting him in isn't going to fix everything. some of the things the president is charged with fixing won't even be directly at the discretion of the president nor will alot of what he says impact some of these items.

i hope obama wins for the sheer fact that mccain scares me. he didn't used to but the closer to the whitehouse he has gotten the more incredibly, visibly unstable he has become. the choice of Palin was simply a risky gamble. with all great gambles... if it works, he's a genius... if it doesn't he needs shot... however this will be indicative of how he runs the country... 'crap i'm in the hole so lets go ahead and throw out this long shot and see what happens'

so the 'maverick' gets no support from me especially since mccain's health is in question (all presidents age before their time) and the only difference between palin's mouth and palin's vagina is that her vagina spits out retarded stuff only 20% of the time.

however the obamamania is scary.. it's the same emotional outpour that G.W.B. used and manipulated to continue to drive us into war. Now Obama is simply using the emotional outpour to his favor.

Either way in this election, there are tough times ahead for America and it's future lies within it's people. Not just the person who gets elected tomorrow. W will go down as worst in history todate and the winner today will go down as the most insignificant as the next 4 years are pretty much written as clean up and they will have to ride alot out and not actually be an impact that people want/need.

It's just another election cycle, the winners today are the politicians. Period.

[Asmodeous]

silly euro indeed as USA is still on the maps. tis still the united states of america and will continue to be until we are conquered.

You stumbled onto the main point all those "silly euro's", IMO, are making. Until we stop seeing ourselves as the worlds betters and start seeing ourselves as what we are, the worlds equals, WE are going to continue to be the silly ones.

[brainiac132]

That's interesting, because i believe that the silly euro (aka harbinger) was saying the US has accomplished little to no good at all in the last 40 years. Arrogance wasn't really a topic just yet.

I'm with garrett on this one. The US isn't perfect, but we're still changing, and the fact that we can change should speak for itself. why don't all you arrogant europeans focus on your own countries. And I call you arrogant, because you all seem to think your rude and ignorant opinions actually seem to matter (in a US election). I'm all for global cooperation, and won't mind seeing a more cooperative president in office. But to throw out all the good that any country has done is just stupid.

[Illumination]

I agree with many here, as far as racial equality goes, America has made HUGE gains in the last half century- of course we still have a LONG way to go (Have you visited the rural south?-still very scary).

I guess I think more globally- I see it as our world and not just our country. We, as Americans, have a long way to go still on taking responsibility for the Earth and on how we interact (respect!) with people of other nationalities.

[Lupus]

if he gets elected someone will shoot him (ppl have already tried i think though not sure on this), if mcain wins...well he is pretty much a walking skeleton anyways so meh

[Twigley]

America is a funny place ...
I think the reason i don't like America and especially the majority of the loyalists to each side is the fact there are so many retarded people in America who actually don't know that they are thick as pigshit.

But it's not that America is more stupid than anyone else it's just the fact that there is more people there so it seems alot more of them are idiots ...

Anyone who thinks there will be any REAL change are silly!
Anyone who thinks one man will change the single market when you have greedy *******s everywhere are fools.
And anyone who thinks that a policy to pull out of the war in IRAQ (Lose oil) and then the mission objective of making the economy better both go together are also silly.

Entertaining to watch though :D

[Alcibiades]

Anyone who thinks there will be any REAL change are silly!
Anyone who thinks one man will change the single market when you have greedy *******s everywhere are fools.
And anyone who thinks that a policy to pull out of the war in IRAQ (Lose oil) and then the mission objective of making the economy better both go together are also silly.

Entertaining to watch though :D

yeah. Mock the optimists and those with hope for improving the world. That'll really help. At least we're trying for change, where you seem content to merely sit and criticize. good job twigley; you're the proper kind of upstanding, concerned, hopeful man our generation needs. We have problems enough to fix in our respective countries that to throw hopelessness and despair onto an already desperate situation is just plain stupid. As is foolhardy optimism, but no one is advocating that.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

Burke wasn't completely full of **** ;)

[Bunion]

Tue 20th Jan, year 6. Midnight Blue Flag Gerbils
A veritable army of gerbils numbering easily in the millions, all waving small blue flags, swarmed through our fields squeaking in a cheering way, passing through from one company HQ to the next in their victory tour. Our guards managed to stamp on a few of them on the way past, causing a satisfying crunching-squeak. They were obviously celebrating something momentous.

IN AZZER WE TRUST

[timtadams]

OBAMA iz ze new PRESIDENT!

Poor Saints.... :D

[Hobbezak]

I agree with many here, as far as racial equality goes, America has made HUGE gains in the last half century- of course we still have a LONG way to go (Have you visited the rural south?-still very scary).


I quite strongly disagree on that point.
America nor Europe have made any progress. People still see other people as "a black" or as "a white". I've seen headlines on the news with "USA are colour-blind" etc. Is that positive?
I try (and emphasize on try, because IMHO people are by nature subconsciously xenophobic) to look at other people and see their unique qualities, and not be influenced by the colour of their skin, or by external symbols of their religion.
What you guys apparently see, is a black man becoming president.
What you should see, is a (competent, talented...? We'll find out soon enough) man becoming president.

Until then, I don't think this world is on the right track.

[Hobbezak]

That's interesting, because i believe that the silly euro (aka harbinger) was saying the US has accomplished little to no good at all in the last 40 years. Arrogance wasn't really a topic just yet.

I'm with garrett on this one. The US isn't perfect, but we're still changing, and the fact that we can change should speak for itself. why don't all you arrogant europeans focus on your own countries. And I call you arrogant, because you all seem to think your rude and ignorant opinions actually seem to matter (in a US election). I'm all for global cooperation, and won't mind seeing a more cooperative president in office. But to throw out all the good that any country has done is just stupid.

Mate I don't think Europe need to learn this lesson, even though I agree that the opinion of EU-citizens doesn't matter in a US-election. We're still entitled to an opinion though, and people are merely expressing their opinion on the matter here.
Anyway, I hope the US government (by which I do not mean the US-citizens) have learned the lesson you try to teach us here.
It's not the EU who try to impose democracy in Iraq or Afghanistan, it's the US. Imposing their values (with all imperfections) on an entirely different society.
It's not the EU who try to politically force the US to allow Mexico as the 53th state. No, it's the US who are trying to force the EU to allow Turkey in as a EU-state.
Hopefully Obama will stop the US strategy to impose their will and values on other societies. So when you look at it from that perspective, maybe the entire world should have a vote in the US elections, until the US government stops its geopolitical "we'll tell you what to do"-act.

[Twigley]

Anyone who thinks there will be any REAL change are silly!
Anyone who thinks one man will change the single market when you have greedy smeg-head everywhere are fools.
And anyone who thinks that a policy to pull out of the war in IRAQ (Lose oil) and then the mission objective of making the economy better both go together are also silly.

Entertaining to watch though :D

yeah. Mock the optimists and those with hope for improving the world. That'll really help. At least we're trying for change, where you seem content to merely sit and criticize. good job twigley; you're the proper kind of upstanding, concerned, hopeful man our generation needs. We have problems enough to fix in our respective countries that to throw hopelessness and despair onto an already desperate situation is just plain stupid. As is foolhardy optimism, but no one is advocating that.


First point - i am upstanding, i am concerned and i am hopeful.
Just because i said that neither of these men will bring change doesn't mean i am none of those things. AT ALL.

Optimism can lead to destruction.


"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

Burke wasn't completely full of smeg ;)

No but you are!

[Asmodeous]

It's not the EU who try to politically force the US to allow Mexico as the 53th state.


Psssstttt!!!! We only have 50 states. ;)

[tobapopalos]

It's not the EU who try to politically force the US to allow Mexico as the 53th state.


Psssstttt!!!! We only have 50 states. ;)

You forgot the UK and Cuba. That makes 52.

[TheNamelessWonder]

Barry O got 96% of the black vote.

Let that sink in.

[Saints]

I still have a feeling hell be assassinated tho... and lmao


It's not the EU who try to politically force the US to allow Mexico as the 53th state.


Psssstttt!!!! We only have 50 states. ;)

You forgot the UK and Cuba. That makes 52.

[timtadams]

I hope not, it would be a pretty pathetic reflection on the USA if he was

[tobapopalos]

I still have a feeling hell be assassinated tho

I've been saying the same thing for a while. There's already been one assassination attempt, I believe, and I doubt it'll stop there. I just hope his security does a good job :P

[Illumination]

I hope not, it would be a pretty pathetic reflection on the USA if he was


What?!

Surely you meant that it would be a pretty pathetic reflection on the person who assassinated him.

*mumbles at the mindless nature of that comment*

[timtadams]

Of course! (i was worried someone would take that the wrong way :( )

I mean that many people would interpret such an event in a way that would have them believe that the American peoples are still racist. (And I know that the actions of a few cannot stand for all and I am certainly NOT calling Americans racist) But it would no doubt reflect some people attitudes and many people will portray such a stereotype onto a larger number of the people than what is true.

[Azzer]

Internationally, it would reflect on the country as a whole "America is not a place you can be a black president because you get assassinated", even though it was only because of 1/a handful of people that they assassinated him.

Don't be suprised by that though. Afghans, Iraqi's, and Muslim's as a whole don't exactrly have a great international image, because of the actions of "the few" (and/or actions of certain western countries working together).

It's just how it works when it comes to public and global perception ;P

[anth]

I love the fact that my taxes are going to go up to help the people who dont feel the need to be bothered by such a trivial matter as work.

[Alcibiades]

I love the fact that my taxes are going to go up to help the people who dont feel the need to be bothered by such a trivial matter as work.

You prefer to waste it on the hundreds of billions of dollars you waste on munitions, weapons, and the military every year?

hell, i'd prefer social service than military expenditure, but i guess that's because i'm Canadian.

[brainiac132]

or maybe he just wants to keep the money for himself. WOW...what a horrible concept.

[Saints]

i think if he is assassinated it will start another race war of some type... discuss i have heard a few ppl talk about this in my uni

[TheNamelessWonder]

i think if he is assassinated it will start another race war of some type... discuss i have heard a few ppl talk about this in my uni

Oh I think there is no doubt that if he were killed stuff would go down, particularly if it were by a white supremacist. Race riots in the cities and stuff.